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Jun-13-11
 | | virginmind: some (minor?) inaccuracies by black in the past 4-5 moves brought the evaluation to +1.86 - if nisi plays 51.b4 |
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Jun-13-11
| | virginmind: wow! chucky resigned? after 54.Bc7 fritz gives "only" +2.84 |
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Jun-13-11
 | | WinKing: Way to go Nisipeanu! |
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Jun-13-11
| | virginmind: bravoooo nisipeanu for this well deserved win! actually some half an hour before i was thinking maybe it was better for white to accept the draw and save the energy for tomorrow's game with back with carlsen. great job nisipeanu! |
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Jun-13-11
 | | moronovich: Congrats to Nisi !
And <virginmind> too :) |
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Jun-13-11
 | | Administrator: Thanks to everybody for being here today. The tournament continues tomorrow at 8:30 AM USA/Eastern time. Hope to see you then. |
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Jun-13-11
 | | Sneaky: Chucky tries to pull off the impossible just a bit too often. |
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Jun-13-11
| | virginmind: thanks <moronovich>, heh, i won some chessbucks too with this one ;) ouch, but at <YouRang> contest i predicted a loss today for nisi - well, you cant have them all, can you? ;) |
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Jun-13-11
| | moronovich: <well, you cant have them all, can you? ;)> You are right,and less than all can be very fine ;)
Enjoy your evening and see you tomorow ! |
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Jun-13-11
 | | Sokrates: Congrats to Nisi. Very well played against this battle-hardened contestant. <fiercebadger: Nisa look a bit like Keres ! only the hair is different> LOL - but it takes a little more than hair-style to walk in the steps of the great Keres. Although you can't compare players of different "ages", I think none of the players in this tournament have reached Paul's level yet. Perhaps except Carlsen, whose style of play isn't far from Keres's - come to think of it. |
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| Jun-13-11 | | KKDEREK: Is this opening rigthy tagged? Ruy Lopes? Isn't Berlim Hermet variaton? |
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| Jun-13-11 | | nathanschulz: Nisi is something of a nemesis for Ivanchuk. He eliminates him twice in the world cup. And now this. |
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| Jun-13-11 | | ajile: I have always found these positions with king in middle to be most unpleasant for Black. |
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| Jun-13-11 | | KKDEREK: Agreed <ajile>. In my patzer view I never undertand how can someone choose a opening like that.ehehe
And Kramnik used to play that against GK (!). One must be crazy (or play lots of chess). ;o) |
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| Jun-13-11 | | Ezzy: Nisipeanu Liviu Dieter - Ivanchuk Vassily [C67]
5th Kings Tournament Medias/Romania (3), 13.06.2011
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6 4.0–0 Nxe4 5.d4 Nd6 6.Bxc6 dxc6 7.dxe5 Nf5 8.Qxd8+ Kxd8 9.Nc3 Ne7 10.Ne4 Ng6 11.b3 Ke8 12.Bb2 c5N< New move I think.> 13.Nfd2 h5 14.Nc4 b6 15.f4 Ne7 16.Ne3 Nf5 17.Nd5 Bb7 18.Rfd1< Threatening 19.Nef6+ Kd8 20.Nxb6+ Nd4 21.Nxa8 gxf6 22.c3 [18.Nxc7+?! Kd7 19.Nxa8 Bxe4 20.Rad1+ Kc8 21.Nxb6+ axb6 22.c4 Rh6 Threatening 23...Rg6 24...Nh4 etc with good counterplay for black.]> 18...Bxd5 19.Rxd5 a5?< Ivanchuk seems to lose his sense of danger. His position is very difficult to defend. [19...Ne3 20.Rd2 Rd8 Is the safest way to deal with the position.] >20.Re1< Ivanchuk's really 'under the cosh' here. Threatening 21 e6 fxe6 22 Ng5 Nd6 23 Nxe6 etc> 20...Rd8 21.Nf6+ Ke7 22.e6 <Threatening mate in 7 with 23 Rd7+ Rxd7 24 exd7+ Ne3 25 Rxe3+ Kd6 26 d8Q+ Kc6 27 Qd5+ Kb5 28 c4+ Ka6 29 Qa8 Mate.> 22...Rxd5 23.Nxd5+ Kd6 24.exf7 Kxd5 25.Re5+ Kd6 26.Rxf5 <Threatening 27.Re5 Be7 28.Rxe7 Kxe7 29.Bxg7 Rd8 30.f8Q+ Rxf8 31.Bxf8+ Kxf8 32.Kf2 Kg7 33.h3 Kh6 34.Kf3 Kg7 35.g4 with a winning endgame.> 26...Ke6 27.Rg5 Kxf7 28.Be5 c4 29.Bxc7 Bc5+ 30.Kf1 Rc8 31.Be5 g6 32.f5 gxf5 33.Rxh5< [33.Rxf5+?! Ke6 34.Rxh5 Rf8+ 35.Ke1 Rf2 With counterplay.] >33...Rd8 34.Bc3< The black rook has to be stopped from entering at d2.> 34...cxb3 35.cxb3 Kg6 36.Rh8 Rd3 37.Rh3 Be3??< Self pinning isn't a good idea. [37...Rxh3 38.gxh3 It may take some time, but this endgames lost for black.; 37...Rd1+ 38.Ke2 Rc1 39.Rh6+ Kf7 40.Kd3 Ke7 41.Rh5 Ke6 And keep defending the position with rook and bishop is best.]> 38.Be1?? <Amazing how both players missed a 2 move tactic. [38.Be5 Rd1+ 39.Ke2 winning.] >38...f4 39.Ke2 Rd8 40.g3 Rc8 41.gxf4 Bxf4 42.Rc3 Re8+?< Ivanchuk had a draw [42...Rxc3! 43.Bxc3 Bxh2 44.Kd3 Kf5 45.Kc4 Ke6 46.Kb5 Bg1 47.Kc6 Bf2 48.Bd2 Ke5 49.Bg5 Kd4 50.Kxb6 Kc3+ 51.Kxa5 Kb2 52.b4 Kxa2 Draw.]> 43.Kd1 Rd8+ 44.Kc2 Re8 45.Bg3 Be3 46.Kd3 Bc5 47.Kc4 a4?< [47...Re2 48.a4 Kf5 and black may (only may) still be able to hold this.]> 48.Kb5 axb3 49.axb3 Re2 50.Bc7 Re6 <[50...Kf5 and I think black's still technically lost.]> 51.b4 Be7 52.Rc4 Kf5 53.Bxb6 Bd6 54.Bc7 1-0 Remarkable game. Ivanchuk got in a complete mess with his opening and Nisipeanu had him in all sorts of problems. But Ivanchuk defended stoically. There was some amazing drama at move 37 when Ivanchuk blundered 37...Be3?? and should have lost a piece, but Nisipeanu also missed the 2 move combination to win easily. Incredible! Ivanchuk after all his stoic defending could have forced a draw with 42...Rxc3! but it wasn't to be and Nisipeanu grinded away for the win. I don't think there are many games where super Grandmasters miss a 2 move combination one after the other. A game full of drama. The game can't possibly ever be 'played out' as long as human's are involved :-) |
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| Jun-14-11 | | APatzer: Hyperopia at moves 37, 38. |
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Jun-14-11
| | virginmind: kramnik missed a mate in one in 2006, but fritz - not being a human - obliged. |
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Jun-14-11
 | | Ulhumbrus: <Ezzy: 42.Rc3 Re8+?< Ivanchuk had a draw [42...Rxc3! 43.Bxc3 Bxh2 44.Kd3 Kf5 45.Kc4 Ke6 46.Kb5 Bg1 47.Kc6 Bf2 48.Bd2 Ke5 49.Bg5 Kd4 50.Kxb6 Kc3+ 51.Kxa5 Kb2 52.b4 Kxa2 Draw.]>> In the sequence above an alternative to 50 Kxb6 is 50 Bd8. Then one variation is 50...Kc3 51 Bxb6 (gaining time, as Black can't agree to exchange bishops) Bh4 52 Bxa5+ Kb2 53 b4 Kxa2 54 b5 Bf2 55 Bb6 Bh4 56 Kd8( denying the square d8 to Black's KB) 56...Kb3 57 Bd4 Kc4 58 b5 Kb5 59 b7 Bg3 60 Kc8 Kc6 61 Ba7 Bh2 62 Bb8 Bg1 63 Bg3 Ba7 64 Bf2 and wins |
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| Jun-14-11 | | Ezzy: <Ulhumbrus: In the sequence above an alternative to 50 Kxb6 is 50 Bd8. Then one variation is 50...Kc3 51 Bxb6 (gaining time, as Black can't agree to exchange bishops) Bh4 52 Bxa5+ Kb2 53 b4 Kxa2 54 b5 Bf2 55 Bb6 Bh4 56 Kd8( denying the square d8 to Black's KB) 56...Kb3 57 Bd4 Kc4 58 b5 Kb5 59 b7 Bg3 60 Kc8 Kc6 61 Ba7 Bh2 62 Bb8 Bg1 63 Bg3 Ba7 64 Bf2 and wins> After 50 Bd8 Kc3 51 Bxb6 Kb2! 52 Bxf2 Kxa2 and white doesn't have a win. |
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Jun-14-11
| | Ulhumbrus: <Ezzy: <Ulhumbrus: In the sequence above an alternative to 50 Kxb6 is 50 Bd8. Then one variation is 50...Kc3 51 Bxb6 (gaining time, as Black can't agree to exchange bishops) Bh4 52 Bxa5+ Kb2 53 b4 Kxa2 54 b5 Bf2 55 Bb6 Bh4 56 Kd8( denying the square d8 to Black's KB) 56...Kb3 57 Bd4 Kc4 58 b5 Kb5 59 b7 Bg3 60 Kc8 Kc6 61 Ba7 Bh2 62 Bb8 Bg1 63 Bg3 Ba7 64 Bf2 and wins>
After 50 Bd8 Kc3 51 Bxb6 Kb2! 52 Bxf2 Kxa2 and white doesn't have a win.> This seems to draw. On 50 Bd8 Kc3 51 Bxb6 Kb2 an alternative to 52 Bxf2 is 52 Bxa5 Kxa2 53 b4 Kb3 54 b5 Kc4 55 Bb6 Bh4 Black's King is attacking the b6 pawn so White can't try Kd7 and Bf2. In your main sequence after 45 Kc4 Ke6 an alternative to 46 Kb5 is 46 Bd4 eg 48...Bc7 47 a4 |
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| Jun-14-11 | | DAVI DE RAFE: ivanchuk innu chukku kappi kudichittillya,allengel kanamaayirynnu. |
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| Jun-14-11 | | Ezzy: <Ulhumbrus: In your main sequence after 45 Kc4 Ke6 an alternative to 46 Kb5 is 46 Bd4 eg 48...Bc7 47 a4> I think you may be onto something there <Ulhumbrus> - This 46 Bd4! seems to be pretty good. This is the best try I came up with, and it seems to lose for black. 42...Rxc3! 43.Bxc3 Bxh2 44.Kd3 Kf5 45.Kc4 Ke6 <46.Bd4!> a4 47.b4 Bd6 48.Kb5 Kd5 49.Bf2 a3 50.Be1 Bc7 51.Ka6 Kd4 52.b5 Kd3 53.Bb4 Kc2 54.Bxa3 Bd8 55.Bd6 Kb2 56.a3 and wins. 
click for larger viewWhere white is going to win the 'b' pawn by playing Kb7 and Bc7. Wow! the whole ending is very tricky.
I don't know if 46 Bd4! can be refuted, but it doesn't look like it to me. |
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| Jun-14-11 | | Ezzy: <Ulhumbrus: On 50 Bd8 Kc3 51 Bxb6 Kb2 an alternative to 52 Bxf2 is <<52 Bxa5>> Kxa2 53 b4 Kb3 54 b5 Kc4 55 Bb6 Bh4 Black's King is attacking the b6 pawn so White can't try Kd7 and Bf2.> Just for the record :-) <52 Bxa5> Kxa2 53 b4 Be1 draws Immediately. |
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Jun-15-11
| | Ulhumbrus: <Ezzy> One can only guess what Ivanchuk calculated before he turned this line down, but it is conceivable that he saw everything important. |
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| Jun-17-11 | | dumbgai: Personally I probably would have tried 37...Rxh3 and tried to survive there. But of course I am no GM and the ensuing endgame is probably lost. |
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