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|Jun-15-11|| ||Mozart72: Thanks, cg.|
|Jun-15-11|| ||Domdaniel: White pawns are a sorry sight.|
|Jun-15-11|| ||Pyke: <Domdaniel: White pawns are a sorry sight.>|
Yes, or at least what's left of 'em.
|Jun-15-11|| ||Gordon1306: White is also vulnerable to the back-rank mate threats from the Black rooks.|
|Jun-15-11|| ||Ulhumbrus: After White has declined Black's Queen Bishop on h3 by 18 c5, by the capture 18...Nxg2 Black offers his King's Bishop as a sacrifice in place of his Queen's Bishop.|
|Jun-15-11|| ||Domdaniel: Not to mention ...Qh3-g2#. This may not take long.|
|Jun-15-11|| ||Sokrates: As much as I sympathise with Karjakin and his promising position, I look at the clock, which tells me that he has 8 minutes left for 10 moves in this highly explosive position. If he can keep a clear head, I'd say he has chances. There are quite a few mating threads and if there would be an exchange of officers, he'd have an army of pawns on both sides.|
|Jun-15-11|| ||dakgootje: Two dancing rooks out of 3 games - a good day :D|
|Jun-15-11|| ||Mozart72: Ivanchuk-Karjakan: 0-1|
|Jun-15-11|| ||Sokrates: He's fighting against the clock now. All these exchanges couldn't be in K's favour. But with 3 pawns up for the quality, there's much to play for yet.|
|Jun-15-11|| ||Domdaniel: Sadly inevitable for the old boy.|
|Jun-15-11|| ||Ulhumbrus: With 29...Rae8 Karjakin offers his b6 pawn which Ivanchuk declines and plays to centralize his Queen on e4 instead. With 31...Ree6 we can say that Karjakin has developed both of his Rooks on the third rank in the style of Morphy, as in Morphy vs Anderssen, 1858 else that Karjakin has brought both of his Rooks up in the style of Spassky, eg as in the game Spassky vs Smyslov, 1953|
|Jun-15-11|| ||WinKing: Chucky went on another suicide mission starting with 17.c4 & it was downhill from there. I can't figure why he does such things. :/|
|Jun-15-11|| ||Ulhumbrus: On 37...Rd6 the attack is over, but to borrow Keene's phrase, Black has too many pawns.|
|Jun-15-11|| ||Administrator: Thanks to all for being with us today. Tomorrow is a rest day. The tournament continues on Friday, June 17, at 8:30 AM USA/Eastern time. Hope to see you then.|
|Jun-15-11|| ||maxi: Ivanchuk's mistake was 16.ad1?, which takes the square d1 away from the . After 16.ad1? xh3! 17.gxh f6 and White is screwed.|
|Jun-15-11|| ||maxi: But Black was already better, even before the 16.ad1? blunder. His 's in d5 and g6 are very agressive, and his in b6 is a dagger poised to strike White's . When you set a very passive structure and your opponent does not waste tactical opportunities, things are likely to go bad.|
|Jun-15-11|| ||ajile: 5.d3 seems optically a bit strange. Isn't one of the main points of 4.c3 to play d4?|
So now after 5.d3 White would lose a tempo if he later plays d4.
|Jun-15-11|| ||BobbyFissure: I've never played the Italian Game, and don't really know the theory, but d3 is actually much more popular at high levels.|
|Jun-15-11|| ||kia0708: I don't remember being so disapointed with Ivanchuk. I guess this is not his tournament.|
|Jun-16-11|| ||sevenseaman: A rip-roarer from Karjakin. I like it when a super train morphs into a plane - no need to stick to lines.|
|Jun-16-11|| ||patzer2: Black's opening choice with the rarely played 7...Ne7 follows one previous game in our opening explorer where it was played to a draw in E Pandavos vs P Petran, 1994. Perhaps it was unfamiliarity with this line that led to White being caught a few moves later with a surprise piece sacrifice on his King side. |
Black's demolition sham sacrifice 16...Bxh3!! appears to yield only a small advantage after 17. d4! Bg4! 18. c4 Ndf4 (also good is18... Bxf3 19. gxf3 Ndf4 20. Bxf4 exf4 21. Rxe8+ Qxe8 22. c5 fxg3 23. Qxg6 gxf2+ 24. Kxf2 Bd8 25. Qe4 Bf6 ) 19. Bxf4 exf4 20. Rxe8+ Qxe8 21. c5 fxg3 22. Qxg6 Bxf3 23. gxf3 Bc7 24. Kf1 gxf2 25. Kxf2 Bd8 . Black has an extra pawn, but the position is far from won.
However, as <WinKing> observes 17. c4? appears to be a near decisive mistake, allowing the strong 18. Ndf4! to where Black's strong followup lead to a win.
After 16...Bxh3!! capturing the offered piece gives Black a likely winning advantage after 16... Bxh3!! 17. gxh3? Qf6! 18. d4 (18. Nh2? Qxf2+ 19. Kh1 Qxg3 ; 18. Kg2 Nh4+ 19. Nxh4 Qxf2+ 20. Kh1 Qxg3 21. Re2 Qxh4 ) 18... Qxf3 19. Bxd5 cxd5 20. Re3 Qf6 21. Qf5 Qh4 22. Rde1 Re6 23. Qg4 Rae8 24. Nf5 Qxg4+ 25. hxg4 Bd8 26. R3e2 b5 27. b3 Bf6 28. Kg2 e4 to .
Appears to me White's game started to decline with 15. Qc2?! Instead, the natural 15. d4 gives White comfortable equality after 15. d4 exd4 16. Rxe8+ Qxe8 17. Nxd4 Bxd4 18. cxd4 Be6 19. Qf3 Rd8 20. Bc2 Qd7 21. Re1 =.
Also, had he seen the sacrifice coming White might have held with 16. h4 Bg4! (16... Nxh4 17. Nxe5 =) 17. h5 Nh4 18. Nh2 Bd7 19.
Ne4 Be6 20. Rad1 Qc7 21. Bc1 Rad8 22. Qe2 Bd7 23. g3 =.
P.S.: No doubt 16...Bxh3!! would make a good future Sunday puzzle position, even if it only leads to a small advantage for Black with best play.
|Jun-16-11|| ||Robyn Hode: It appears the fatal mistake was 18. c5? White probably could have still held with 18. Bxf4 exf4 19 Rxe8+ Qxe8.|
|Jun-16-11|| ||Imposter: indeed, my comp agrees with that diagnosis.|
|Jun-16-11|| ||Ulhumbrus: Instead of offering the sacrifice ...Bxh3 after playing first a preparatory move like ...Ndf4, Karjakin plays the sacrifice 16...Bxh3!! immediately and after that 17...Ndf4.|
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