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Jul-01-11
 | | TheFocus: Here is another simul game I submitted today.
Got more coming. |
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Jul-02-11
 | | HeMateMe: E Travis seems to have forgotten that Bob liked to 'seal' that f file. |
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Jul-04-11
 | | Phony Benoni: The only question I can think of is why Fischer played 17.Qc1 rathan 17.Qd2. Artistry? A sense of humor? Too tired to move the queen forward? I don't see a chessical reason. Not that it matters, of course. |
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| Jul-04-11 | | Oginschile: Fritz gives almost Qc1 as .7 better than Qd2, though I'm not seeing why either. I'm trying to see, but there seems to be significant different. I'm reminded of Keene's demolition of Miles where white's move 20. Qb1!! was winning, but imperceptibly, Qc2 or Qd3 would have offered black defences. Keene vs Miles, 1975 |
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Jul-04-11
 | | Sneaky: Phony, a legitimate question--Fischer would not play a second-rate move just for a joke. Perhaps he thought there were some "counterplay" with 17.Qd2 Ng4 18.h3 Nc4, or something nutty like that. Of course Black loses in that line but Fischer just wanted to get the game over with: take on h6 with the queen and accomplish job #1. |
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Jul-04-11
| | Sneaky: By the way: "Fischer playing the Morphy Defense in Texas" ... CG did a good job picking a game with an American theme for Independence Day ;-) |
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Jul-04-11
| | Phony Benoni: <Sneaky> I think you're right. After 17.Qd2 Ng4 18.h3 Nc4:
click for larger viewWhite will have to play 19.Qc1 anyway, and now the rook lift via e3 is not available. And perhaps Black might consider 18...bxc3 (attacking the  d2) 19.bxc3 Nc4, when White no longer has b2-b3 evicting the knight. Boy, that Fischer guy was good. You know, this might make a decent midweek puzzle. |
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Jul-04-11
 | | Once: Interesting question - 17. Qc1 or 17. Qd2?
I think <Sneaky> has called it correctly. Both moves keep the queen on the diagonal leading to the h6 square. But with 17. Qc1 the queen cannot be molested by a later Nc4. Something like 17. Qd2 Ng4 18. h3 Nc4
click for larger viewOkay so white still wins, but why give your opponent even a leetle bit of counterplay when you can avoid this line altogether? The centre is blocked so white isn't going to lose out much with Qc1. He isn't going to be in a hurry to park his Ra1 on a central square. It's only a temporary layover anyway as Qh6 or Qxh6 is coming pretty soon. I guess that's the genius of someone like Fischer. He sees a pair of moves that he wants to play - Qc1/ Qd2. Then he checks out the black defences to each, including Ng4-Nc4 plan to kick his queen off the juicy diagonal. So he adjusts his move to nullify those defences. And all while playing a simul with only a few seconds per move. 17. Qd2 is the automatic move - grabbing the diagonal, attacking the h6 pawn and connecting the rooks. But Fischer doesn't play automatic moves. He thinks about his opponent's reply and adjusts to counter it. I'd like to think that I would find 17. Qc1 over the board. I'd like to think that. But I've got a sneaking suspicion that I would play the "principled" 17. Qd2 and then wonder why my attack was harder than it should have been. There's a lot of chess understanding in that one little move. |
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Jul-04-11
| | Once: <phony> our posts crossed in the ether! Luckily we are saying the same thing... |
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Jul-04-11
| | Once: <Eduardo Leon> Fritz calls 17... bxc3 as mate in 8 for white with 17... bxc3 18.Qxh6 Ne8 19. Ng5 Bxg5 20. Qxg5+ Kh8 21. Re3 f6 22. Qh6+ Kg8 23. Rg3+ 19. Ng5 threatening Qh7# gives white time for the rook life Re3-g3 or h3. |
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Jul-04-11
 | | al wazir: So why didn't Bobby play 15. Bxh6 ?
Could it be that he didn't see it?? |
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Jul-04-11
 | | Albertan: <al wazir: So why didn't Bobby play> <15. Bxh6 ? Could it be that he didn't> <see it?? > Even the "best" miss tactical continuations over the board. Especially in a simultaneous exhibition! |
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| Jul-04-11 | | Oceanlake: Against the Ruy, think long and hard before placing the Bishop on b7. Richard Teichmann vs Carl Schlechter, 1911. Ed Lasker had a conversation about this in hi chess biography. |
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Jul-04-11
 | | sofouuk: <Albertan> <al wazir> <Could it be that he didn't see it?? > surely with the DSB not on f8 and the LSB on b7 anyone would consider the h6 sac, it's just so thematic ... BUT it isn't obviously winning at first glance (rybka didn't find it immediately, so it can't be that straightforward) and you can't hang around for too long checking everything in a simul, AND this is fischer we are talking about, not tal, so, why not play the easy move that eliminates counterplay first? you know you're going to win anyway |
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| Jul-04-11 | | kevins55555: 22.  xg5+!  xg5 23. g7# would make a Tuesday puzzle. A little harder to spot than a Monday puzzle. |
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| Jul-04-11 | | ColeTrane: another texas twister |
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| Jul-04-11 | | UnsoundHero: 15 Bxh6 a move earlier is less convincing, because black doesn't have to capture the bishop. 15...cxd4 gives black counterplay on the c-file, with the center now open. |
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Jul-04-11
| | TheFocus: Great that this is GOTD! |
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| Jul-04-11 | | Kiril Simeonovski: Reply to kevins55555:
By playing 21...Bh8 Black holds the position two moves longer, since now white mates after 22.Rxg5 Qxg5 23.Qxg5+ Kh7 24.Qh6+ Kg8 and 25.Ne7#. |
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Jul-04-11
 | | swr: Nice game. Why is this not labeled as a Chigorin? |
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| Jul-04-11 | | hugogomes: <swr> it's not labeled as a Chigorin because it is not the Chigorin variation, which would involve the Knight on a5 to go back to c6 attacking the pawn on d4, which did not happen. |
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Jul-04-11
 | | David2009: Here's the position at the start of the combination:
click for larger view
Enjoy the pleasure of beating Crafty End Game Trainer from the diagram (link: http://www.chessvideos.tv/endgame-t...). Confession: I couldn't do it first time round. Second time I got lucky and won an exchange on top of getting my piece back. |
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Jul-04-11
 | | Domdaniel: <Focus> Since nobody else seems to have thanked you, I will. Thanks.
Keep 'em coming. |
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Jul-04-11
 | | keypusher: Yes, thanks a lot, <TheFocus>. |
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Jul-04-11
 | | muratski: <David 2009>
I managed to find the check-mate in 16 moves. Thanks for the links, very instructive. Here it goes:
1.Bxh6 gxh6 2.Qc1 Ne8 3.Qxh6 Nc4 4.Ba4 Bc6
5.Bxc6 Bd8 6.Bxe8 f6 7. Bg6 Qd7 8.b3 Nb6 9.Re3 Nd5 10.exd5 Rc7 11.Nf3h4 Qg7 12.Nxg7 Rxg7 13.
Nf5 Rf8f7 14.Bxf7+Rxf7 15Rg3 Rg7 16.Qxg7++ |
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