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Wesley So vs Sergey Karjakin
World Cup (2011)  ·  Nimzo-Indian Defense: Classical Variation (E32)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Sep-01-11
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  Hesam7: I doubt Karjakin could have imagined the opening going as well it has. He has a tremendous advantage on the clock, he has long equalized and his position is a lot easier to play.

15. ... Rd4 & 15. ... Bb7 seem good candidate moves for Black.

Given how good the opening has gone for Black here I must say that opening is definite;y world team's biggest weakness.

Sep-01-11  salmar: wesley's time @ http://worldcup2011.live.whychess.o... is 1:23:00 as of this moment.
Sep-01-11  bigatin: Sergey can not fully develop as well, he's knight at B1 tied to the defense of his bishop at A3.

Look at Wes in the live video...a picture of calmness amidst pressure...not a ripple in the pond...

Sep-01-11
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  Strongest Force: Interesting for me (as a caveman) to witness such modern play from these lads
Sep-01-11  bigatin: magnum 44 remaining for Wes. 1 hour and puberty for Sergey!
Sep-01-11
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  Hesam7: <Strongest Force: Interesting for me (as a caveman) to witness such modern play from these lads>

Nimzo is ancient, I learned it from a cave painting actually :)

Sep-01-11
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  Hesam7: God I hate James Blunt ...
Sep-01-11  bigatin: Sergey's clock approaching Wes time zone...Soon the horse will be reunited with the hawk...and the curse will be broken!
Sep-01-11  bigatin: a couple of buffoons masquerading in avatars!
Sep-01-11
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  whiteshark: Excellent choice of the last 2-3 moves by Wesley, avoiding well prepaired/analysed lines of his opponent without getting into a worse position.
Sep-01-11
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  Hesam7: Here is a line I came up with to keep the game alive: 15. ... Rd4 16. Bxf6 Qxf6 17. Qe8+ Kh7 18. e3 Bxf1!? (18. ... Rd8 =) 19. exd4 (forced) 19. ... Bxg2 20. Rg1 Bc6 21. Qc8 Qxd4


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Sep-01-11
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  Ulhumbrus: 15 Rc2 defends indirectly the e2 pawn. This suggests that So is thinking of playing 16 g3 followed by 17 Bg2 and 18 0-0
Sep-01-11
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  Hesam7: <whiteshark: Excellent choice of the last 2-3 moves by Wesley, avoiding well prepaired/analysed lines of his opponent without getting into a worse position.>

From a practical point of view he is worse.

Sep-01-11  bigatin: equal game according to the escape artist Houdini.

Sergey emulating Wes play...taking his time...evaluation depth up to the 40th move as well. His clock down to 60 minutes...That'a a long thought...

Sep-01-11
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  Ulhumbrus: Wesley has the bishop pair and Black's Queen side pawn structure is broken with isolated a and c pawns. This suggests that if So can get his King into safety and complete his development, Karjakin will have a difficult game to defend, if he can defend it at all.
Sep-01-11
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  Hesam7: <Ulhumbrus: Wesley has the bishop pair>

Not anymore. You are making static judgement in a position that is sharp and very fluid.

Sep-01-11
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  Ulhumbrus: It seems that the fork 15...Rd4 has deprived White of the bishop pair and perhaps the greater part of any advantage with it.
Sep-01-11  Atking: Is 17.Qa5 such bad? More than Bishop pair pawns structure seems to me the point.
Sep-01-11
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  whiteshark: There is of course a permanent danger for the king in the center - it always reminds me of this game from the 8th Corr WC: A Khasin vs J Sloth, 1975

Position after <15...Qb6>:


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White went down w/o much resistance

Sep-01-11
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  Ulhumbrus: <Hesam7: <Ulhumbrus: Wesley has the bishop pair> Not anymore. You are making static judgement in a position that is sharp and very fluid.> You have missed a part of what I said. I said that White's bishop pair and Black's broken Queen side suggested ( ie did not prove) that if White could complete his development and get his King into safety, Black would have a difficult game to defend if he could do it at all. As it happens, Black has not waited for White to finish his development but has played the fork ...Rd4.
Sep-01-11
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  Ulhumbrus: <Hesam7> It looks as if Black has entered the sequence which you have given.
Sep-01-11
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  Ulhumbrus: After 18...Rd8 ( as given by <Hesam7> ) Black threatens both 19...Rxe8 and 19...Bxf1 depriving White of the right to castle. This suggests that 18...Rd8 gains the advantage for Black.
Sep-01-11
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  Ulhumbrus: On 19...Bxf1 20 Nxf1 Qg6 attacks the g2 pawn as well as White's Rook on c2. Then if White's Queen has to defend the Rook she can't prevent Black's N coming to c6, although the N can come to d7 as well.
Sep-01-11
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  Strongest Force: Somebody should tell GM So that when you're slow you blow
Sep-01-11
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  Strongest Force: Bb7 proves that I am a seer
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