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Ilija Balinov vs Miso Cebalo
Graz op 1996  ·  Sicilian Defense: Paulsen. Normal Variation (B45)  ·  1-0
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Sep-09-11  rilkefan: When I was a cherubic early teen more the size of a pre-teen I played in a tournament at a mall within easy earshot of a piano store. Some customers liked to see what it sounded like to turn the Moog or whatever it was out front to Kiss circa 1979 volume (my town banned them shortly after iirc). I went over in the depth of my naivete and asked the salesperson (who was probably with such a customer at the time) if she could do something about it, as we were trying to play chess. She took a knee and asked me what grown-up had sent me to make the request. It didn't occur to me until just now that I could have pointed to the guy I was playing.
Sep-09-11
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  rhickma4: It appears White can pick up a piece with 20.Rc5.
If 20...dxc5 21.Bxe5 forks the rooks, both unprotected. Since there is no way Black can protect both rooks, he has a free tempo to cause some disruption. Best may be 21...Bd7 which recovers a pawn, but I think this is winning for White.

The only alternate to 20...dxc5 is 20...Qd8, but White can simply proceed with 22.Rxe5 dxe5 23.Qxd8 Kxd8 24.Bxe5 In this line Black has less play, since the Qs are of the board.

Sep-09-11  gofer: After a few seconds I like Rc5, because the rooks are both undefended and can both be attacked by playing Bxe5, so we have something like....

<20 Rc5 ...>

20 ... Qd8 21 Rxe5 dxe5 22 Qxd8+ Bxd8 23 Bxe5 Bd7 24 Bxb8 Bxa4 25 bxa4 O-O 26 Bxa6 (at which stage white is a bishop and two pawns up and we are quickly moving into a winning end game for white)

<20 ... dxc5>
<21 Bxe5 Bd7>
<22 Bxb8 Bxa4>
<23 bxa4 O-O>
<24 Be5 ...>

But this position has way too many options to make a snap judgement like that, so I am going to have a closer look for another 10 minutes... ...nope still like it... ...Time to check...

Sep-09-11
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  David2009: I Balinov vs M Cebalo, 1996 White 20?

White has the promising exchange sacrifice 20.Rc5 which appears to win a Rook after either (A) 20...dxc5 21.Bxe5 forking the Rs on h8 and b8 and (B) 20...Qd8 21.Rxe5 dxe5 22.Qxd8+! etc. Time to check:
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Indeed.

Sep-09-11  gofer: After a few seconds I like Rc5, because the rooks are both undefended and can both be attacked by playing Bxe5, so we have something like....

<20 Rc5 ...>

20 ... Qd8 21 Rxe5 dxe5 22 Qxd8+ Bxd8 23 Bxe5 Bd7 24 Bxb8 Bxa4 25 bxa4 O-O 26 Bxa6 (at which stage white is a bishop and two pawns up and we are quickly moving into a winning end game for white)

<20 ... dxc5>
<21 Bxe5 Bd7>
<22 Bxb8 Bxa4>
<23 bxa4 O-O>
<24 Be5 ...>

But this position has way too many options to make a snap judgement like that, so I am going to have a closer look for another 10 minutes... ...nope still like it... ...Time to check...

Sep-09-11  gofer: ... not sure I like black's attempt at defense. Castling seems natural enough obviously, but I kind of like Bd7 to potentially give white a headache after Bxa4, so to be safe white takes Rb8 and not Rh8 and in that way black still gets to castle. It still looks pretty lost for black, but not quite so quickly...
Sep-09-11  Quentinc: <Once It's a true story... http://www.seecalendargirls.com/> Funny, I didn't recognize any of the cast members from Monty Python in there.
Sep-09-11  Dionysius1: Yesss! Solved my first Friday puzzle. For the sake of pride I'm ignoring postings that say this wasn't that difficult :-)
Sep-09-11  LIFE Master AJ: 03:41 AM Started on the puzzle. (Looking ONLY at the diagram on the main page.)

#1.) Ran through the checklist.
#2.) Looked at a few quick lines/variants.
#3.) Decided on 20.Rc5 as the solution.
#4.) Checked the time. (03:42 AM)

Sep-09-11
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  morfishine: Unless I've got the board set-up wrong or am the victim of some hallucination, <20.Rc5> wins on the spot. As Black Queen has only one square <d8> and 20...Qd8 21.Rxe5 dxe5 22.Qxd8 Bxd8 23.Bxe5 forks the black rooks, white will be up a piece plus 1-pawn:


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So, black must take the rook. But after 20...dxc5 21.Bxe5, its hard to find a good move for black due to the nasty fork (again):


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Black probably resigned here

Sep-09-11  eblunt: Got it today :) but blacks best I think is 20 Rc5 Qd8 21 Rxe5 Be6 trapping the rook. Black can reduce the immediate loss to N+B+P for Rook, but his position is a mess.
Sep-09-11  novicevarun: I am stuck , not sure what I am mising here,
20. Rc5 Qd8
21. Rxe5 dxe5 .. white should save his queen now as Qxd1 ( white's queen is under threat). Now Bxe5 cannot be played as white neads to move Queen, such as Qf3. So I dropped the idea for Rc5 and ignored this line. Not sure if there is any better solution ?
Sep-09-11  CHESSTTCAMPS: Material is even, but black's lag in development (in particular, the disconnected and unprotected rooks) causes serious difficulties. White can play for the bishop fork at e5:

20.Rc5! exploits the ineffective BQ.

A) 20... dxc5 21.Bxe5 (and one of the loose rooks must drop off) Bd7 24.Bxb8 Bxa4 25.bxa4 Qxa4 26.Bc4 and black does not have compensation for white's extra bishop.

B) 20... Qd8 21.Rxe5 dxe5 22.Qxd8+ Bxd8 23.Bxe5 is no better for black.

B.1) 21... Be6 22.Rd5 Bxd5 23.Qxd5 with N+B for a rook, the bishop pair, and a firm grip on the position.

There may be another defense that gives white a greater challenge, but I can't seem to find it. Time for review...

Sep-09-11  novicevarun: I think the line can be ,
20. Rc5 Qd8
21. Rxe5 dxe5
22. Qxd8 Bxd8
23. Bxe5 ....

missed a simple thing. My bad!!!

Sep-09-11
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  Phony Benoni: I've been on both sides on the Noise Sagas, since my college club was kicked out of our office in the recreation center for being too loud and rowdy. But two incidents stand out, both occurring in tournaments played at the Palmer House in Chicago.

In the 1979 US Open we shared a floor with Beatlemania. When you got off the elevator, you were supposed to be wearing your tournament badge to be able to get past the bouncers to the playing area. More than one chess player had nasty confrontations by omitting this detail.

Then there was the US Class Championship played in a second floor room near a balcony overlooking the lobby. One Sunday morning, while wandering around between moves, I noticed a full scale brass band assembling in the lobby.

Naturally, I made a beeline for a player who I knew was particularly sensitive to noise and waited for the show. Well worth it.

I never did fully outgrow that college chess club.

Sep-09-11  jussu: <Yesss! Solved my first Friday puzzle. For the sake of pride I'm ignoring postings that say this wasn't that difficult :-)>

Same here :) And I am taking this as a promising sign for the tournament I will begin in one hour.

Sep-09-11  Sho: <rilkefan: I could have pointed to the guy I was playing.>

Funny

Sep-09-11  sfm: <gofer: ... not sure I like black's attempt at defense. >

Neither do I, but the problem is of course that there _is_ not a shadow of defense - or attack. After 20.Rc5,dxc 21.Bxe5,Bd7 22.Bxh8 (I like to keep the bishop on the a1-h8), bxa4 23.bxa,Qxa4 we have:


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White would like to play Bc4, but right now it would be a blunder because of -,b3! So instead 24.Bb2 (now we can play Bc4),Rd8 25.Qe1


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Finally there is nothing good to do against Bc4, the move that ends the game. White also thinks about Rf1/Qf2 and/or e5-e6. "It is over." Honestly!

Sep-09-11  solskytz: took me a good minute and a half of 'what the hell is going on here'? or 'what a mess?! Now what am I trying to accomplish here?'

opening lines? creating checks on d7 or d8 with the queen? eliminating the Bc8? Getting my Bf4 to trap the queen on a5? Maybe checking on b5? or opening up the roads to the king? OMG... nothing seems to work -

then I got another 'magic triangle', just like the other day... this time it was e5-b8-h8... reminds me a little of 'a beautiful mind' where this crazy genius sees all kind of bizarre geometric relations between symbols, words, etc...

how does it happen? Must be magic... but lo - I did see it!

I did look like 5 times at move Rc5, but only now, after the 'revelation', did I understand why it worked, or indeed, what it's actually supposed to do... to bring the support from under the feet of the poor Ne5 - with gain of tempo, and with the Black Q having nowhere, but absolutely nowhere, to go while still covering the two critical squares on the bishop black diagonal (the one leading to b8)

Hurrah!

Sep-09-11  howlwolf: I have to agree with most of the posters--pretty easy for a Friday.
Sep-09-11  solskytz: Why is it that every time I solve a Friday, people later tell me that it's too easy for a Friday?!

lols

Sep-09-11
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  scormus: <morfishine:> exactly what I was thinking .... that B didnt resign until W was R+minor ahead and threatening # in 2 as well.

<solskytz> It wasnt so easy. Believe me, we are simply on great form today :)

Sep-09-11
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  Patriot: <solskytz> I know how you feel. You probably looked at Be3 also (to attempt trapping the queen), right? I considered it briefly but the threat ...Nxc4 should help narrow the list of candidates considerably. However I know that I wasted some time looking at some of the same candidates that had nothing to do with the threat.

The only "good" candidates seem to be Rxc8+ (one way of dealing with the threat), Bxe5, Rc5, or Rd4. Rd4 is weak by comparison so it should be considered last if everything else fails. Rxc8+, as forcing as it is, is just another way of losing the exchange. Bxe5 looks more reasonable to remove the attacker although it gives up the bishop pair! Rc5 and black's options are very limited: ...Qe8 or ...dxc5. The latter is more forcing so I considered it first: 20.Rc5 dxc5 21.Bxe5 winning a knight for rook and forking the undefended rooks. 20.Rc5 Qe8 21.Rxe5 dxe5 22.Qxe8+ followed by 23.Bxe5, winning a piece.

Sep-09-11
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  sevenseaman: My house is undergoing painting and naturally there is constant tuk tuk or irksome screeches of heavy furniture being dragged across the floor.

Taking a cue from <Once>'s story and others <dzechiel, Phony Benoni, cherubic rilkefan et al> who have related to it narrating their own experiences/anecdotes, its no wonder that I missed the now simple looking <21. Rc5>.

Sure I will take steps to cut out or insulate the noise, my puzzle solving can get affected for some more days to come.

An excuse, if ever there could be one; but these beauties can have the effect of recharging your batteries.

Sep-09-11
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  Marmot PFL: With white's rook attacked the combination 20 Rc5 dc 21 Bxe5 was not hard to spot, although I missed the queen trap threat a couple moves later that ended the game. Playing over the game I would have given 13...g6 at least ?! and possibly ? as it slows development and weakens some key squares for no evident reason (probably black wanted to castle without worrying about Qh5 and Rh3).
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