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Alexander Grischuk vs Peter Svidler
World Cup (2011), Khanty-Mansiysk RUS, rd 7, Sep-17
Spanish Game: Classical. Central Variation (C64)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Sep-18-11  Meatwad: <kellmano> There's an old book by Simon Webb where he suggests just that - when your opponent is in time trouble use long thinks to come up with 3 move sequences or so that you can bash out in blitz...then go into a long think again, and repeat. I've tried it myself and find it somewhat effective.
Sep-18-11  Meatwad: Chess for Tigers is the book.
Sep-18-11  AdrianP: The position on the board is still a little uncomfortable for Black. Given the match situation, Grischuk must continue playing for a win.
Sep-18-11
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  Dionysius1: Bizarre! Official commentary and live video of the game has stopped on order to have a press conference, where they're just chatting about stuff in general. After all the coverage the result of the game and therefore the whole Cup could happen without video coverage or commentary!
Sep-18-11  mslr45: Black is still have chance because blacks c line weak
Sep-18-11  arkansaw: You have a problem with Shipov getting his 5 minutes worth of televised fame?
Sep-18-11  sol0027276: 26.Ne6!
Sep-18-11
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  Dionysius1: :-) Of course good to see them all, but which would the current 1,003,000 viewers on the live site rather see right now, I wonder.
Sep-18-11  Meatwad: What about now 26...Re8 followed by ...Bd5 and ....Ree2 if White doesn't exchange?
Sep-18-11
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  Dionysius1: Phew, we're back with video now, and hot news is that Chucky is twirling his eyebrows and picking his nose. And now... back to the press conference?!
Sep-18-11  arkansaw: Svidler down to 24 seconds!
Sep-18-11  kellmano: Well I never. Draw!

Gris looked relieved at the end.

Sep-18-11
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  tpstar: This is why Grischuk should have been the odd man out of the Final Four. You get the sense he didn't take this game seriously, and/or expected to bail out with his blitz skills.

Good fighting draw after all.

Sep-18-11
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  Dionysius1: Yippee! Grischuk seems to be illustrating an extra way of creating dynamic equality in a chess game: one player having the better position, the other having a big time advantage. Maybe this is the way to overcome the dominance of computer analysis for live games: when if ever are computers going to be able to assess time advantage versus good position?
Sep-18-11  kellmano: Svidler is great in press conferences. Grischuk looks very sad.
Sep-18-11
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  Dionysius1: Nice touch when the translator invited Petr to translate Grischuk's technical analysis into English, and chuckles all along the table.
Sep-18-11  Ulhumbrus: Draw agreed. It seems that Svidler has escaped.
< Honza Cervenka: I would say that Shipov's comment in Russian language is far better. > That does not surprise me. Shipov is the best commentators there is.
Sep-18-11  Ulhumbrus: 18 Nf3 makes a target of the N after the move 18...Bd5. This suggests 18 Ne4.
Sep-18-11
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  Domdaniel: <Kellmano> That alternating strategy used to be good against an opponent in time trouble - but the use of increments has changed everything. With a 30 second increment per move, there isn't really any danger.
Sep-18-11  Kinghunt: After Nd6+, there will inevitably be a complete liquidation of queenside pawns, leaving a 3P v. 3P rook ending, dead drawn. Yet while I can't criticize Grischuk for not playing this out, I don't think he planned out his opening and middlegame as well as he should have, given his situation.
Sep-18-11
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  HeMateMe: So this is it, huh? Gris has to win on Monday with black. Tough assignment, but you just never know what will happen.
Sep-18-11
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  tpstar: The live event is still going, several hours later?!

Our Administrators must have gone to church. :-)

Sep-18-11  kia0708: or to a night club
Sep-18-11  LIFE Master AJ: Grischuk blew a nice edge ...
Sep-19-11  Ulhumbrus: < Honza Cervenka: I would say that Shipov's comment in Russian language is far better. > A correction to my reply to your message. It should read <That does not surprise me. Shipov is one of the best commentators there is>
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