|Sep-26-11|| ||Oceanlake: 11. ...d6?|
|Sep-26-11|| ||erniecohen: meh. Not much of a game in my opinion.|
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As for the game, White's DSB was a monster.
|Sep-26-11|| ||ColeTrane: . . . talk about OWNING that D file . . .|
|Sep-26-11|| ||whiteshark: A transient IPC with consecutive symptoms.|
|Sep-26-11|| ||sevenseaman: Not a game for GOTD IMO.|
|Sep-26-11|| ||scormus: <erniecohen: meh. Not much of a game in my opinion.>|
.... not much of a pun either IMO
|Sep-26-11|| ||kevin86: I guess the pun is to refer to white's triple control of his queening square at d8.|
Game is OK,but nothing to write home about...
|Sep-26-11|| ||twin phoenix: think the pun is about whites tripled pawns...
not that bad a game! not that often someone can make triplets look advantageous. after all they are supposed to be "an abomination!"
|Sep-26-11|| ||erniecohen: <Oceanlake> 11. ...d6 is even worse for black than the game continuation; after 12. a3, the only way to save the d pawn is to advance it, where it will end up isolated and blockaded by the DSB.|
|Sep-26-11|| ||JohnBoy: To me, the interesting thing about this game is the way that white (strong master) lays waste to the naive strategy of black (weak master). I've played this "pile up on the stacked c pawns" strategy for black, and it has its place. Think, for instance, about Fischer's dismissive comments regarding the Leningrad - he seemed to think that this is a particularly effective direction. But it is not the only way to play the black pieces, and Saidy is merciless in pointing out its shortcomings.|
The Nimzo is much more flexible and rich in themes than black seems to be conscious of. For a discussion of ways that the Nimzo can undermine the white center, follow the current game Chessgames Challenge: Akobian vs The World, 2011.
|Sep-26-11|| ||PaulLovric: <OhioChessFan: Bilabo Moves Prediction Contest will begin later today. Click on Elvis for details.
As for the game, White's DSB was a monster.> what is DSB?|
|Sep-26-11|| ||King of Nothing: < JohnBoy: To me, the interesting thing about this game is the way that white (strong master) lays waste to the naive strategy of black (weak master). >|
This makes it sound way too simple, like White was winning from the first move. That kind of "analysis" went out a long time ago.
Saidy was 20 when they played this game and he wasn't even the best young player in the country. You say he was a strong master? That's a laugh!
< Think, for instance, about Fischer's dismissive comments regarding the Leningrad - he seemed to think that this is a particularly effective direction.>
Fischer was known to make those big statements a lot, just like you are here. Would I trust you more than him? I don't think so!
|Sep-26-11|| ||coconut: <PaulLovric>: DSB = dark-squared bishop|
|Sep-26-11|| ||JohnBoy: <KoN> - I said why the game was interesting to me. Take it or leave it. True - Saidy was not the strongest yo ung player in the US in 1957. But he was pretty blasted strong - stronger than me - and I learn from his play. It shows me why a particularly naive strategy on the part of black is ineffective. Maybe the game offers you little or nothing. So be it.|
|Sep-26-11|| ||Funology: I agree with JB; this is an interesting strategical game. White defeated Black not with a convoluted tactical flourish but with solid, logical play. After positioning his pieces actively and tying up Black, the end was almost automatic. Fischer's aphorism that "tactics flow from a superior position" comes to mind. I can apply this to my own games more than a 10-move combination from Kasparov.|
|Sep-27-11|| ||King of Nothing: There's this thinking here that White had this all the way. Is it really right to look at a game that way or to analyze it without caring about who won?|
Before 28.Rg1 White was doing all right, but I don't he had it in the bag.
|Sep-27-11|| ||JohnBoy: <KoN> - If I felt that I was taking a "white had it from the get-go" attitude then certainly you are correct. But that's not what I am saying. Maybe I am saying things poorly, but let me try again.|
I play this sort of stuff as black, and am trying to improve my understanding of the Nimzo. White here did, in my estimation, win the strategic battle early. Once the bishop was parked at d6 black was left to try to solve big problems with tactical thrashing - not from a superior position.
My own understanding of the Nimzo is too trivial - and I recognize the way black lost because it has happened to me. Thus I like the discussion in the Akobian-CG game as it is teaching me some of the more important themes of this key opening.