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Gadir Guseinov vs Gabriel Sargissian
European Team Championship (2011), Porto Carras GRE, rd 2, Nov-04
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. Rio Gambit Accepted (C67)  ·  1-0


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Nov-04-11  tarlan13: Well done, Gadir!
Nov-05-11  chesssantosh: an amazing queen sacrifice!!!
Nov-06-11  hedgeh0g: 33.Qxe6+!! leaves White with an easily won rook ending. A good Thursday/Friday puzzle.
Jan-28-12  Shams: Too easy for Friday.
Jan-28-12  mohannagappan: 33.Qxe6+! Rxe6 34.Rc8+ Kh7 35.Rf8 white wins
Jan-28-12  LIFE Master AJ: I saw the sack on e6 right away, but the following Q-checks took me many minutes to sort through.

Nice game, good problem.

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  Gregor Samsa Mendel: <Shams: Too easy for Friday.> I agree, and even more so considering that this is a Saturday puzzle. Still, I'm glad I got it; I hardly ever solve Friday puzzles, much less Saturday ones.
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  Phony Benoni: After some fiddling around, including trying to trap Black's queen on h4, the idea of 33.Qxe6+ and doubling on the 8th rank popped in. Black manages to reach an ending, but since he was two pawns down to start that doesn't help. So the whole thing amounts to a simplifying combination.

Or did White have better? For instance, after 36...Qd6+:

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37.f3 eventually hangs the bishop on e3. However, going back gets nowhere and 37.Kh2/g3 gives Black 37...Qd6+ and 38...Qxf8.

Actually, this could be called <The Curse of the a-pawn>. If it were off the board, this would be the position before Black's 36th move:

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And he could get a draw by moving his rooks back to the eighth rank, then sacrificing his queen to produce stalemate.

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  whiteshark: A <chimney mate>:
♖8,♖8,♙g5 and ♔h7,♙g6,♙g7
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  FSR: Easy, unless I'm missing something: 33.Qxe6+! Rxe6 34.Rc8+ Kh7 (interpositions are worthless) 35.Rff8 (intending Rh8#) Rd1+ (spite check; 35...Qxg5+ 36.Bxg5 is no better) 36.Kh2 1-0
Jan-28-12  scormus: <FSR: Easy, unless I'm missing something: 33.Qxe6+!> I thought the same, but it seems we didn't miss
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  al wazir: I found the game line, though I agree with <Phony>: It certainly looks as if white should have something more lethal. Even a waiting move like 33. h4 is winning, but it's not a win by force.
Jan-28-12  LIFE Master AJ: <Phony Benoni> "Or did White have better? For instance, after 36...Qd6+:


37.f3 eventually hangs the bishop on e3."

Are we forgetting something? (Mate on h8.)

Jan-28-12  LIFE Master AJ: Point? What does it matter to hang the B/e3 ... if you win the ending rather easily?
Jan-28-12  scormus: <Shams: Too easy for Friday.>

OMG I'm supposed to be at work! Hang on its Sat .... don't scare me like that

BTW is Kh2 the same as Kg2?

Jan-28-12  sevenseaman: With 2 Ps better off, theory says simplify. Except that its been presented as a puzzle. So some tactical gimmickry is in order!

Sac R to f8 but Black will be a wet blanket to recapture not with his R as I like him to but with his K.

Q sac is more serious. It can lead to doubling of my Rs on the 8th.

<33. Qxe6 Rxe6 34. Rd8+ Kh7 35. Rf8> This free move invites counterattack. The best to Black's hand is;

<35...Qd1+ 36. Kg2 Qd5+ 37. f3> to get here;

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Mate threat at bh8 invites desperado moves;

<37...Rd8 38 Rcxd8 Qxd8 39. Rxd8 Rxe3>

And White is in good position to canter to or grind out a win.

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  dzechiel: White to move (33?). White is up two pawns. "Very Difficult."

The very first thing the experienced player notices about this position is the exposed black king, and the fact that the blocked, doubled pawns on the g-file have the makings of a tomb for his majesty.

I immediately want to play

33 Qxe6+ Rxe6

pulling the black rook off of the weak back rank. Now white can follow up with

34 Rc8+ Kh2

Of course blocking with either rook is pointless.

35 Rff8

Now the threat is 36 Rh6#. The black king cannot run and the rooks cannot be stopped. Black's only hope is to go after the white king and hope that his attack comes through first, or that he might obtain a perpetual check.

35...Qd1+ 36 Kg2 Qd5+ 37 f3 Rd8

Black has to give back the material. After the exchanges, it looks like white will emerge with a won rook and pawn endgame.

I really thought that white would give checkmate on h8 when starting this combination.

Time to check.

Jan-28-12  BadKnight: 1.Qxe6+ Rxe6 2.Rc8+ Kh7 3.Rff8 and white mates next move, if he can get rid of spitechecks from black

3...Qd1+ 4.Kg2 Rd8 should hold, so apparently the whole line is wrong.

time to start over.

the calculation is more or less correct, but the assessment of the position was wrong.

Jan-28-12  Memethecat: I managed <36Qxe6 Rxe6 37Rc8+ Kh7 38Rf8 Qd1+> and mistakenly assumed white would win through with BR#, sloppy analysis, I did make sure black was unable to # but I should've looked deeper. However its difficult to see what white achieves other than a complicated exchange of pieces.
Jan-28-12  Memethecat: My combo of course starts on mv <33> tut tut, sloppy dictation too.
Jan-28-12  Memethecat: <dzechiel> your dictation is worse than mine, the black K has super powers & can jump to h2 & whites R (not to be out done) threatens # on h6
Jan-28-12  meetvirgo2005: Got the first few moves <33. Qxe6 Rxe6 34. Rd8+ Kh7 35. Rf8> but missed the best defence from black - Qd1+. Assumed it would be checkmate at h8 and got it wrong.
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  Once: It's a roller-coaster of emotions this cold and crisp saturday morning. Straight off, we spot the potentially weak back rank and the queue of pawns on the g file. "I don't care if you do know the DJ, you're not getting in wearing those shoes."

So that provokes the thought of 33. Qxe6+ Rxe6 34. Rc8+ Kh7 35. Rf8 GOOT...

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We are giving black a free move, like a magician offering a deck of cards. "Pick a move, any move you like, don't let me see it." And waiting quietly in the wings is the threat of Rh8#. Murder most foul in a darkened alleway.

Remind you of a song? How about this?

In the Avenues and Alleyways
while you sleep there's a whole world coming alive
Able and his brother, fighting one another
in and out of every dive
The Avenues and Alleyways
where the strong and the quick alone can survive
Look around the jungle
see the rough and tumble
Listen to a squealer cry
Then a little later
in the morning paper
Read about the way he died.

What a shirt! No? Only me then. Again.

But then a little warning bell starts ringing in your head. The problem with GOOTs is that black might be able to do something annoying with that free move. And we do indeed have 35..Qd1+ 36. K (somewhere) Rd8. With a little bit of triangulation, black has engineered a block on the back rank.

Insert rude word of your choice here. The GOOT doesn't work. Maybe it's a spoiler and we have to look at something like 33. h4 instead? Then we can at least have the pleasure of dodging a bullet but it's a shame that the queen sac doesn't work. It's like taking home a beautiful stranger and finding that "she" is packing rather more in the plumbing department than her outward appearance would give you cause to expect. The one occasion when a game of snap is not welcome.

Then you look a little closer. Okay, so black does spoil the mate but he has to chuck a lot of material to do so. Let's count up the bits... aha, maybe the queen sac does work after all.

The game line finds another wrinkle. By adding in 36...Qd5+ black forces f3, which in turn limits the material deficit by making the Be3 weak. And white cannot really avoid f3 because a king move allows black a perpetual check. Clever defence by black.

I can't really claim to have solved this one today. Saw the queen sac sequeing into a GOOT, the "spoiler" defence and the material, but I didn't see black's extra check to nab the bishop. Doesn't change the game, but I'm an honest fella and that throws the point for me.

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  Prudov: The day gives it away! On Tuesday or Wednesday I would have stopped at 33. Qxe6+, but on Saturday something must be lurking in the background.
Jan-28-12  Incarnatio: I must say, this week's been pretty good on me. Are the puzzles getting easier or is my chess improving? Can I solve Sunday?!

Anyway, I calculated up to 36. Kg2, but I'm not sure if I'd be able to spot f3, so no full credit. By the way, f3! is really beautiful. It's like throwing the words 'the jig is up, Black!' in the face, with no way to avoid mate but accept a losing endgame.

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