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Levon Aronian vs Magnus Carlsen
Tal Memorial (2011)  ·  Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto. Nimzowitsch Variation Nimzowitsch Attack (E15)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Nov-16-11
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  Sneaky: The only tricks I can see are those b and c pawns lumbering down the board like elephants.
Nov-16-11
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  SteinitzLives: It's whites game to win. He must activate his rooks and watch out for tricks by black but white has plenty of time to make the connected passers be a big enough advantage to swap out for other advantages.
Nov-16-11
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  achieve: Enough time to buckle up for tricks.
Nov-16-11
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  beenthere240: I can't see anything but a win for White.
Nov-16-11
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  talisman: i agree with <sneaky> but first white will have to free his bishop via c7.
Nov-16-11
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  SteinitzLives: Whites' inactive B is keeping Blacks a file rook inactive, not bad. Carlsen is doing a big think and Aronian must not get nervous against any surprises, since his position is fundamentally better now.
Nov-16-11
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  beenthere240: I think white's bishop is alreadu excellently placed at a5. Blocks off the a file and will support the pawn down to c7.
Nov-16-11
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  tamar: Naiditsch shows the following trick 47...Bh4 48 Rd4 h5 49 Rc4 e3! 50 Rxh4 e2 51 Re1 Rf8
Nov-16-11
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  Domdaniel: Black could probably draw by exchanging a Rook for Bishop and one of the Q-side pawns. His remaining R+B will hold off the remaining c-pawn, his King could build itself a fortress, and White would have insufficient pawns to win. Maybe.
Nov-16-11
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  dakgootje: Give me either side in this position - and I'll lose horribly.
Nov-16-11
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  Ulhumbrus: Carlsen seems in trouble if he is not actually lost, because White has two connected passed pawns against a lone e pawn, advanced though it is. On 47...Bh4 ( threatening 48...e3 and 49...e2 winning) 48 Rd2 e3 49 Re2 White threatens 50 Bc7 after which the b pawn will run by 51 b5, 52 b6 and 53 b7. How is Black going to answer the potential threat?
Nov-16-11
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  SteinitzLives: 47 . . . . Bf6 is a very sensible looking move, admits that black must play for the draw which he may be able to get if black does not try too hard to win. It's looking less tactical and more of a "grind-down" take your time ending.
Nov-16-11
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  talisman: ok let's leave the bishop...now which rook and to what square?
Nov-16-11
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  Ulhumbrus: After 48 Bc7 White's b pawn threatens to run. How is Black going to stop it?
Nov-16-11
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  tamar: Black has to sac the exchange to get rid of the queenside pawns. Only chance I see. Now how to do it...
Nov-16-11
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  Ulhumbrus: If the move 48...e3 can be considered a threat, White can't play 48 Bc7 at once but must cover the blockade square e2 first by 48 Re1, 48 Rf2 or 48 Rd2.
Nov-16-11
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  SteinitzLives: Pundits and engines say 48 Re1, taking his time to eliminate counterplay but the black e pawn can be pushed, however with less impact with the white R on e1.
Nov-16-11
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  tamar: Right now e3 is still a threat, but White has time for Re1 here.
Nov-16-11
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  matey: When all is said and done Carlsen will be condemned for making mincemeat out of his queenside.
Nov-16-11
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  SteinitzLives: uh oh, big think on Aronians' part and this is what he comes up with. Carlsen can play K-f7-e7 and be playing virtually up a piece against the two passers assuring the draw.
Nov-16-11
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  achieve: Rd6, heh, clever Levon... Tough defense this as Black, but within Carlsen one would think
Nov-16-11
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  Ulhumbrus: 48 Rd6?! may let the win slip because on 48...Rxd6 49 cxd6 Bd8! forces an exchange of White's bishop and "All rook and pawn endings are drawn". Besides, the exchange isolates the the two connected passed pawns
Nov-16-11
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  SteinitzLives: Yes, 48 . . . .Rxd6 is a mistake as the e pawn gets weak, but black won't fall for that.
Nov-16-11
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  tamar: Critical decision for Carlsen, if he avoids exchange with ...Re5, he will lose.

Only chance is to run the King behind the bishop (hopefully the idea of ...Bf6) and stop those surging pawns.

Nov-16-11
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  tamar: Not sure Carlsen sees a draw given his expression. Either that or he ate some bad food at the snack bar.
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