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| Nov-17-11 | | panzerkampf: Most complicated game of the tournament, I guess. |
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Nov-17-11
 | | Ulhumbrus: 36 Bd5! is the moment when White gains a winning advantage because Black can no longer take the b7 pawn and it becomes a decisive weapon. If Black can manage to take the b7 pawn at some point before this, White may have a strong white square attack, but not necesssarily a winning advantage |
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Nov-17-11
 | | beenthere240: I guess after 38. Bc6!,if black moves the knight anywhere, then 39. Nc5, threatening Na6 mate, also exposes the rook to an attack from the c6 bishop. |
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Nov-17-11
 | | Appaz: A typical Carlsen win and a nice demonstration of "practical chess": several times he chooses sub-optimal moves according to computers, balancing on the edge of defeat, but complicating matters enough to allow the opponent to go wrong just before the 40th move. |
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Nov-17-11
 | | haydn20: a violent, peculiar game. It appears Bl shd have taken the b7P when he had the chance. Also 30...Be5 to preserve the f6P might have helped. Time to get out Fritz, a board and another cup of coffee. |
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Nov-17-11
 | | luzhin: Gelfand too deserves many plaudits for his enormous creative contribution to a magnificent game. |
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Nov-17-11
 | | tamar: <Appaz: A typical Carlsen win and a nice demonstration of "practical chess": several times he chooses sub-optimal moves according to computers, balancing on the edge of defeat, but complicating matters enough to allow the opponent to go wrong just before the 40th move.> Good description, but I wouldn't call Carlsen's play "bluff", as Naiditsch did after 25 Ng3 Bd6 Carlsen's advantage over even guys like Topalov and it appears, Gelfand, is finding quiet moves like 26 Qe2, that neutralize attacks, preserve the equilibrium, all the while being only moves. Naiditsch called 26 Qe2 a "miracle", but had to concede later, Carlsen found a whole string of them later also. |
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Nov-17-11
 | | haydn20: DO NOT let Carlsen have the two bishops. Ever. |
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| Nov-17-11 | | bronkenstein: <haydn20: DO NOT let Carlsen have the two bishops. Ever.> So , to conclude , <5...e6?? > =) |
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| Nov-17-11 | | ChessMan94: Wow, so that's how a 2800+ GM plays the game. Amazing. |
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Nov-17-11
 | | HeMateMe: I wonder what Gelfand miscalculated in his attack, that gave him the impetus to let Carlsen have open play through the C file? Maybe he thought he could stabilize the position, after a pair of Rooks were swapped off. Bad decision to castle Q-side, great vision by Carlsen. |
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| Nov-17-11 | | tud: Fantastic game. Absolutely gorgeous. 14... 0-0-0 a mistake. |
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| Nov-17-11 | | Jamboree: Seems to me that 36. ... Be5?? is the losing move.
What would Carlsen have done if Gelfand had simply played 36. ... Nxf6. After 37. NxN a5 38. Nd7+ Ka7 black is still hanging on. Sure, its N+3Ps vs R, but black could conceivably find a drawing method. Alternately, after 36. ... Nxf6 if 37. Nc5 a5 38. Na6+ Ka7 39. Nxc7 Nxd5 40. Nxd5 Rxb2 and black is even better than in the other line. What do the computers say after 36. ... Nxf6 ? |
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| Nov-17-11 | | AVRO38: Great game by Carlsen, but a typical case of "challenger's syndrome" on the part of Gelfand. Challengers tend to just play in tournaments to keep their tactical skills sharp and not to try out any new ideas. Alekhine at Nottingham is the text book example. He saved the good stuff for the upcoming 1937 match. |
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| Nov-17-11 | | frogbert: <After 37. NxN a5 38. Nd7+ Ka7 black is still hanging on. Sure, its N+3Ps vs R, but black could conceivably find a drawing method.> jamboree, i don't think there are any conceivable draws after 39. b4!  click for larger vieweither white wins a tempo after 39... axb4 40. e4 (39... a4 40. b5! with b6 to follow) - and the e-pawn is a major headache for black - or white wins another pawn (on a5) after which it's a matter of technique. 37... a6 is another try, but also there the e-pawn rules: 38. Nd7+ Ka7 39. e4 Rxb2 40. e5  click for larger viewthis is pretty much hopeless for black, with the king out of play and white passers "all over the place" and an active, white king. |
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| Nov-17-11 | | bronkenstein: According to Shipov`s post mortem , Boris was clearly playing for victory here , based on some sharper continuations he opted for (and his blacks were at least OK very fast) but his natural desire to prove the supremacy over īdrop-outerī made him overextend . |
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| Nov-17-11 | | frogbert: hahaha! "prove the supremacy" over carlsen. yeah, that's how every knowledgeable chess follower sees it - gelfand should prove his "supremacy" over carlsen. i hope gelfand tries again, next time around. :o) |
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Nov-17-11
 | | Hesam7: Magnus did win but it seems to me he is slightly off form. In the first game he missed: 14. ... Nfd7! and here he gave away all of his advantage with 15. d5? |
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| Nov-17-11 | | minasina: Magnus Carlsen: <The problem here was, that I had an illusion that I can play...> 19:05:50
http://www.russiachess.org/live/onl... Press conference from 19:01:00 |
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| Nov-17-11 | | shintaro go: I'll never understand 24. g5 |
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| Nov-17-11 | | frogbert: shintaro go, g5 potentially distracts the black queen from the e-file, allowing white to play Qe4 if black captures (and the white queen is excellent on e4). it also stops the unpleasant check on h4 by blocking the diagonal. |
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Nov-17-11
 | | Hesam7: Magnus came out of the opening with a small plus which he squandered with 14. d5?. Then the game is balanced until 26. Qe2 after which a comedy of errors ensues: 26. ... Rg1? (26. ... Bxg3+! =)
27. Qd3? = (27. Qb5! )
28. ... Raf1+? (28. ... Rh1!=)
30. ... f5? (30. ... Be5! )
33. ... Rg2+? (33. ... a6! )
37. f4? (37. Bxe5! )
37. ... Bc7?? (37. ... Bxf6 ) |
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Nov-17-11
 | | Hesam7: 37. f4? was a big mistake by Magnus. Black could have exploited this as follows: 37. ... Bxf6! 38. Nxf6 Nc5+ 39. Kd4 (39. Kc3?! Rg3; 39. Kc4?! Rc2+) 39. ... Rc2 40. b4 Nxb7 41. Nd7+ Kc7 42. Nf8 a5 43. bxa5 Nxa5 44. Nxg6 Nc6+ 45. Ke4 Nb4 46. Bb3 Rf2 47. Kf5? Nxa2 48. Bxa2 Rxa2  click for larger viewAnd this is a tablebase draw! |
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Nov-17-11
 | | notyetagm: <LACK OF MOBILITY!> and <COORDINATED PLAY> 37 ... Be5-c7?? takes away c7-flight sq from Black b8-king Carlsen vs Gelfand Tal Memorial 2011 From Evernote:
<LACK OF MOBILITY!> and <COORDINATED PLAY> 37 ... Be5-c7?? takes away c7-flight sq from Black b8-king Carlsen vs Gelfand Tal Memorial 2011
Clipped from: http://chessbomb.com/o/2011-tal/02-... S.B. Hansen vs Aronian 18th ETC 2011 34 ... Ra7-g7?? takes away g7-flight sq from Black h7-king
http://chessbomb.com/o/2011-etcc/05... Carlsen vs Gelfand Tal Memorial 2011 37 ... Be5-c7?? takes away c7-flight sq from Black b8-king
http://chessbomb.com/o/2011-tal/02-... Gelfand vs Kamsky FIDE Candidate Match Kazan 2011 16 a2-a3?? takes away a3-flight sq from White b3-queen http://chessbomb.com/o/2011-cm/2-5c... Ivanchuk vs Vallejo Pons 4th Bilbao Master 2011 36 ... Bd8xh4?? takes away g4-flight sq from Black h5-queen http://chessbomb.com/o/2011-bilbao/... |
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Nov-17-11
 | | notyetagm: Game Collection: LACK OF MOBILITY! LACK OF MOBILITY! LACK OF MOBI Carlsen vs Gelfand, 2011 37 ... Be5-c7?? takes away c7-flight sq of b8-king, stalemate!! |
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