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Magnus Carlsen vs Peter Svidler
Tal Memorial (2011)  ·  Gruenfeld Defense: Exchange. Classical Variation (D86)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Nov-22-11
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  Domdaniel: ...Qb2 is a cute way of defending c4, renewing the mate threat, offering a Queen exchange, and bringing Black's passed c-pawn into play.
Nov-22-11
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  Marmot PFL: Qb2 seems to force an ending with slight edge for black, as his c-pawn has to be stopped.
Nov-22-11
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  whiteshark: Draw agreed on the other board, Kram - Naka that is.
Nov-22-11
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  outplayer: it's a draw in few more moves
Nov-22-11
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  Domdaniel: This will -um - Peter out too, I think. The pawns are vanishing fast.
Nov-22-11
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  keypusher: Surely this game will be drawn shortly?
Nov-22-11
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  Marmot PFL: all draws for 3rd straight day.
Nov-22-11  Gordon1306: <Peter out too> Precisely!
Nov-22-11
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  Marmot PFL: looked like Nakamura had some chances at the end. Against a weaker player he might have played on.
Nov-22-11  Gordon1306: This was a real slugfest. Thanks for showing it CG. Well-played to both competitors.
Nov-22-11
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  Administrator: Thanks to everyone for watching and commenting on today's game. Our coverage of the Tal Memorial continues tomorrow at 6:AM USA/EAstern time. Hope you can join us then.
Nov-22-11
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  whiteshark: " <The increased percentage of draws in many strong international tournaments does not illustrate an eventual decline of fighting spirit but rather the growth of competitors in quality and number--a phenomenon which puts new standards into grandmasters' practice.

< A vast knowledge of openings which reaches deep stages of the middlegame, a well specialized individual repertory and high technics of defense are very commonly met today even among players of lesser reputation.

< Gradually, the strongest grandmasters are becoming accustomed to having to wear down every day a stubborn resistance which defies their powers and forces them to find ever keener weapons whereby to achieve victory. >>>"

Svetozar Gligoric, writing for Chess Review, <1967>

Source/Thanks to http://kevinspraggett.blogspot.com/...

Nov-22-11
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  SteinitzLives: The increased number of draws reflects less risk taking and fewer opening innovations.
Nov-22-11
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  Domdaniel: Yes, a great fighting game. Svid's attack was strong, but Carlsen showed just how hard he is to beat. Both had chances, but a draw is a fair result.
Nov-22-11
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  Domdaniel: <Steinitz> Actually, there *isn't* an increased percentage of draws in games between top ten players. There was in the 1970s, but the win ratio has increased again. Jeff Sonas has done an exhaustive statistical survey.

One reason why people think there are more draws is the preponderance of all-elite tournaments, with no 'rabbits'.

Nov-22-11
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  Marmot PFL: Seems they have taken steps to eliminate the short GM draws, 15-20 moves. At the same time with modern opening knowledge it becomes ever harder to get a meaningful advantage.
Nov-22-11  JoergWalter: I think everyone not being born a notorious gambler takes risks when he has too take them. Which means to me that in a field like this everything will be decided in the last rounds. Up to then its either waiting for your opponents mistake or stay in the flow.
Nov-22-11
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  Richard Taylor: Dastardly Slavic-Teutonic cowards! They should have fought to the death on as would we British would have done...
Nov-23-11  romni: Is 10...b6 a new move?....it's new to me, but i don't keep up with current theory.
Nov-23-11  Pepperpot: 12.f4 is the novelty but one less intended as an improvement, more to give the play an independent character - several prior games had continued 12.Nd4 Ne5 13.Nb5 Qb8 (Fritz prefers ...Qc6) with some advantage to White.
Nov-24-11  Pepperpot: <Not sure if I spent too much time on the preparation contributing to a heavy head today or not enough time as I had not covered the 10...b6 variation of the Grunfeld that he somewhat surprisingly went for in sufficient depth. I had a small advantage out of the opening but soon regretted 14.Qa4 as Peter found the best and only adequate continuation which in turn was quite pleasant for black. Until the time control I had to defend a somewhat unpleasant position due to the strong black bishop on d5. He must have forced things on the kingside a bit early as I had the best prospects immediately after the time control. First I mainly considered Rd1 yielding a slight, but most probably merely symbolic advantage for white. I ended up playing the seemingly promising Rd4 instead as I had missed his 43...Qb2! 44.Qe4 Qg2+ after which the rook and bishop ending is just a draw.>
Nov-24-11  kia0708: like at Dunkirk ? :-))

<They should have fought to the death on as would we British would have done...>

Nov-24-11
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  notyetagm: Carlsen vs Svidler, 2011

37 ?


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37 Nd4-f5! <overloaded: d5,f5>


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Carlsen's 37 Nd4-f5! is an excellent <DISCOVERED DEFLECTION> that gets him out of a difficult position.

Game Collection: DISCOVERED DEFLECTIONS

Carlsen vs Svidler, 2011 37 Nd4-f5! Black e6-pawn must protect Black d5-bishop from newly-unmasked White d1-rook

Nov-24-11
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  notyetagm: Game Collection: OVERLOADED: TTTCIE: THE THREAT TO CAPTURE IS ENO

Carlsen vs Svidler, 2011 37 Nd4-f5! Black e6-pawn protects Black d5-bishop from the newly unmasked White d1-rook

Feb-06-12
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  Hesam7: Has anyone looked at the piece sacrifice: 19. Bxe6 fxe6 20. fxg6


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(A) 20. ... hxg6? 21. Bxe5 Qxe5 22. Qxa5
(B) 20. ... Bc6? 21. gxh7+ Qxh7 (21. ... Kh8? 22. Qxc5) 22. Ng3 Bxf4 23. Rxf4 Nb7 24. Qb3 Rd6 25. Rbf1! (25. Nf5? c4 26. Qxc4 Bd7 27. Nxd6 Rxc4 28. Rxb7 Rxc3 29. Rb8+ Bc8 30. Nxc8 Rc1+ 31. Kf2 Rc2+ 32. Kg1 =) 25. ... Rcd8 26. Nf5

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(C) 20. ... Nc4 21. Qa6 Rf8 22. gxh7+ Kh8 23. Rb7 Qc6 24. Qxc4 Bxf4 25. Nxf4 Rxf4 26. Rxf4 (26. Rbb1? Qxe4!) 26. ... Qxb7 27. Rf7 Qb1+ 28. Kf2 unclear

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37 Nd4-f5! e6-pawn protects d5-bishop from unmasked d1-rook
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