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Magnus Carlsen vs Peter Svidler
Tal Memorial (2011)  ·  Gruenfeld Defense: Exchange. Classical Variation (D86)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Nov-22-11
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  brankat: <Clearly white is winning here...>

It is a bit too early to be so sure of White winning.

Nov-22-11
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  Richard Taylor: Just joking...!!
Nov-22-11
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  Ulhumbrus: 14...e6 keeps White's KB out of d5 and so prepares the move 15...Na5
Nov-22-11
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  brankat: I kinda thought so :-)
Nov-22-11
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  Richard Taylor: Bu the sac on f7 followed by f5 is worth looking at for Magnussenski. White probably has a small advantage as his Bs are bit better placed and his K a bit safer.
Nov-22-11  Gordon1306: <Just drank 40oz of carrot juice> Yes, thats quite potent. So I hope you diluted it somewhat with some Grey Goose(or similar).
Nov-22-11
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  Richard Taylor: Bd5 now is strong ..no? keeps the pressure on Black's pieces and the pawn on c5 etc Simple chess.
Nov-22-11  Gordon1306: Nepo - Karjak - Karjak trades Queen for a shipyard of timber (R, Kt & B)
Nov-22-11
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  Ulhumbrus: Black has not played ...e6 and this omission invites 15 Bd5
Nov-22-11
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  Richard Taylor: Unless he wants to charge down the f file.
Nov-22-11
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  waustad: Nepo - Karjakin has some interesting stuff going on. Q+R and 8 pawns vs 2 rooks B, N and 5 pawns.
Nov-22-11
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  Ulhumbrus: On 15 Rb5 forking the N on a5 and the c5 pawn Black has 15..Bc6 skewering the R on b5 and White's Queen on a4 but on 15 Bd5 Bb7 16 Rb5 Bc6 White can take Black's QB by 17 Bxc6
Nov-22-11
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  Ulhumbrus: Svidler has prevented White's Rook from forking the N on a5 and the c5 pawn from b5 by playing 15...Bd7 and so Carlsen's Queen forks the N on a5 and the c5 pawn instead from a3.
Nov-22-11  Gordon1306: 16. ... Rac8 for Black to be followed by 17. ... e6 will embarass the White Bishop.
Nov-22-11
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  Marmot PFL: A similar game to nakamura-svidler a few days ago. hard to surprise svidler in this line.
Nov-22-11
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  Domdaniel: <waustad> Yes ... funny how the Gruenfeld has become the most popular opening in high-level games. No single variation dominates, though, and there are plenty of options for both sides. I'm not complaining.
Nov-22-11
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  Marmot PFL: 12 Nd4 looks more promising than early f4 but Svidler would be ready for that. Sometimes Ne2 looks left behind once the pawns advance.
Nov-22-11
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  Ulhumbrus: Instead of 21...Rf8 Black may gain the upper hand by offering the a7 pawn by 21...Bxf4 22 Rxf4 Qe5 23 Qxa7 Bc6
Nov-22-11
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  Ulhumbrus: On 22...Bxf4 followed by 23...Qe5 Black may have the better of it
Nov-22-11
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  Ulhumbrus: After 23 b4 the c4 pawn obstructs Svidler's QB and Black has two isolated pawns on a7 and c4. Perhaps the idea is 23 b4 a5. However even then the advance ...c4 has conceded the d4 square to White
Nov-22-11
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  Ulhumbrus: 25 e5 opens the long diagonal h1-a8 for Black's QB
Nov-22-11
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  Domdaniel: Svid looks quite comfortable now. A draw is the logical outcome.
Nov-22-11
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  Marmot PFL: a5 would lead to very drawish game so white prevents it for now. a7 is about the only thing to attack as e6 is well defended.
Nov-22-11
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  Ulhumbrus: I am off for now. My present guess is that the kibitzers who have forecast a draw will turn out to have been right. Black may have some advantage but perhaps not enough to win.
Nov-22-11
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  Domdaniel: Svidler is playing for a win. Could get interesting if he pushes his g+h pawns. White is restricted by the back-rank mate threat.
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