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Dec-03-11
 | | lost in space: After 22. Rbe1 or 22 Qg4 White is fine. |
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Dec-03-11
 | | Ulhumbrus: <lost in space: <<uhlumburs>:<lost in space: 20... Rd2 21 Qg4 an than what?> Perhaps 21...Rab8>
No, this looses the Bf6 after 22. Nxf6.
if seems that Black has to play 21...Rd6 or 21..Qb6+
> Or how about 21...Kf8 |
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Dec-03-11
 | | talisman: welp it's been fun, got to go... needs to get to a4...11 min for 17 moves! |
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Dec-03-11
| | lost in space: No, After 20...Rd2 21. Qg4 Kf8 22. Rfb1 Qc2 23. Rc1 Qb2 (or 23...xg2 with big white advantage) 24. Rab1 Black is lost.
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Dec-03-11
| | Ulhumbrus: < OneArmedScissor > I saw your message after having sent mine. |
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Dec-03-11
 | | haydn20: Oddly, after 22...Kf8, I feel that White has just enough space & iniative to HOLD the position. |
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Dec-03-11
| | Ulhumbrus: The game Adams - Anand appears to be headed for a draw. |
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Dec-03-11
 | | SteinitzLives: Kramnik- Naka 1/2-1/2 official, still a fighting game despite staying in the books
Adams- Anand should be drawn soon too. |
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Dec-03-11
 | | OneArmedScissor: Yeah... see. <...Kf8> just like I mentioned earlier.
<Why can't black just move his king?> |
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Dec-03-11
 | | An Englishman: Good Morning: I'm back, and I see a position where Black is a bit more disorganized then before, but I still think f4-f5 was premature. White's Rf1 surely wishes it could do more than stare at the f-pawn's derriere. 23.Rb7 looks interesting. |
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Dec-03-11
 | | SCUBA diver: White needs to get one of his rooks to g3. |
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Dec-03-11
| | Ulhumbrus: <lost in space: No, After 20...Rd2 21. Qg4 Kf8 22. Rfb1 Qc2 23. Rc1 Qb2 (or 23...xg2 with big white advantage) 24. Rab1 Black is lost.> If Black can't improve on this, he cannot offer the exchange sacrifice in that way and must try an alternative eg 20...Qb6+ or 20...Rd6 |
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Dec-03-11
| | lost in space: I think this is now close to =. There seems to be no white advantage at all any longer. |
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Dec-03-11
 | | joe1137: MC may have to cash out here and take the R. |
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Dec-03-11
| | An Englishman: Good Morning: Has anyone else figured out the reason(s) for White's last two moves? I can't. I don't think I understand chess anymore. |
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Dec-03-11
| | Ulhumbrus: Black is two pawns ahead. That means that he can offer the exchange without losing material on balance. My guess is that it is White who has to think of how to save the game. |
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Dec-03-11
| | joe1137: too late |
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Dec-03-11
| | Ulhumbrus: Every one of the games in this round has been an interesting fighting game. |
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Dec-03-11
| | lost in space: After 24...Qa4 White has now the option to start playing on the queenside with 25. Rb4 Qa3 26. Rb7 R6d7 27. Qe2. Still this position seems to me quite balanced
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Dec-03-11
| | Ulhumbrus: <lost in space: After 24...Qa4 White has now the option to start playing on the queenside with 25. Rb4 Qa3 26. Rb7 R6d7 27. Qe2. Still this position seems to me quite balanced> In this sequence an alternative to 25..Qa3 is 25...Qc2 |
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Dec-03-11
 | | moronovich: <An Englishman: Good Morning: Has anyone else figured out the reason(s) for White's last two moves? I can't. I don't think I understand chess anymore.> A way of asking black if he has got any moves to strenght his position without giving anything of significance away.A very annoying way of playing and especially difficult to meet in time trouble. |
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Dec-03-11
| | lost in space: Howel will lose on time or in time trouble. The position is = but complex. Six minutes for a 15 moves is not enough |
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Dec-03-11
| | lost in space: <<Ulhumbrus:> <lost in space: After 24...Qa4 White has now the option to start playing on the queenside with 25. Rb4 Qa3 26. Rb7 R6d7 27. Qe2. Still this position seems to me quite balanced> In this sequence an alternative to 25..Qa3 is 25...Qc2> You are right. In both cases (25...Qa3 and 25...Qc2) Black is not that bad. |
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Dec-03-11
| | An Englishman: Good Morning: Now Howell is starting to puzzle me. The whole point of ...Rd6 was to prevent the weakening of the King-side after Nxf6,gxf6. Looking at 27.Nxf6,gxf6; 28.Qh4,Kg7!?; 29.Rg3. |
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Dec-03-11
| | An Englishman: Sorry, 29.Rf3. |
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