Dec-14-11
 | | Shams: Great game and a final position so cool it could almost spell out a holiday puzzle:
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Dec-14-11
 | | whiteshark: <Shams> That's frea awesome! |
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| Dec-14-11 | | Penguincw: White out of good checks to prolonge mate. |
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| Dec-19-11 | | Everett: White walks into a harmless variation vs the Pirc, and Black is comfortable early. 28..Bf4 is a tricky move. |
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| Dec-19-11 | | King Death: < Everett: White walks into a harmless variation vs the Pirc, and Black is comfortable early...> After White avoids the Holmov line (5.Qe2), 5...Ne4 is one way to equalize. Then you have 5.Nc3 0-0 6.0-0 c6 (or again ...Ne4) as well as what Gashimov played. |
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| Dec-19-11 | | rilkefan: Looks like a case of white playing not to lose (from a patzer's POV). Vigus says black has four reasonable options on move 6. I'd think that white could get as little risk for a bit of a pull in the classical variation, or as little risk with an easy plan in the fianchetto line. |
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| Dec-19-11 | | King Death: <rilkefan> I don't know who Vigus is, but this line with 5.Bc4 never offered a lot even in the 70s. I think Ljubojevic used to play it for White. If I were going to play against the Pirc, the classical line would be okay too. The tough part would be creating any winning chances as Black. |
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| Dec-19-11 | | rilkefan: <KD>, Vigus is the author of the current Pirc bible, _The Pirc in Black and White_. I picked up Nunn's 1980 book when it was published: he said Bc4 was "relatively crude but still dangerous" against the Pirc move order; they both think this subline is innocuous. I think there's still some fun in the 6...Nc6 lines against the classical. |
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| Dec-19-11 | | Everett: Right, once White plays Bc4, then Black can safely leave the modern and go straight Pirc. Since Gashimov has been living and dying with the Benoni historically, this opening is not a bad idea. He will be quite comfortable in various transpositions. IMHO the modern is best used to avoid Bg5 lines from White, as well as the Austrian Attack if one so wishes, though the major Pirc players seem not to mind going in to the latter... <rilkefan> what does Vigus think of Blacks chances vs Whites Bg5 systems? |
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| Dec-19-11 | | rilkefan: He says 4.Bg5 Bg7 (assuming Pirc - I tend to play the modern order, vainly hoping for c4) 5.Qd2 ("5.e5 [...] dxe5 6.dxe5 Ng4! is already equal") c6 "currently appears fine for black" and ...h6 "probably is too" - with some complexity about transpositions, something I don't love about these lines. If I'm feeling booked up I want to face the Austrian, certainly compared to white forcing a sterile line of the classical and winning a long endgame because I don't know which rank my rook belongs on. |
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