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Magnus Carlsen vs Levon Aronian
Tata Steel (2012)  ·  Queen's Gambit Declined: Charousek (Petrosian) Variation (D31)  ·  1-0
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Jan-17-12  HectorChess: Thanks <Shams>. I agree with your point of view.
Jan-17-12
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  lostemperor: <Gypsy> of course!
Jan-17-12
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  OhioChessFan: <ceebo> the 52...Ra6 line looks like a good idea if White has to give up the b Pawn. However: 52...Ra6 53. Ne7+ Kf7 54. Bxb4 Ra1 55. Nf5 intending Nd4 looks like White is going to lose the h Pawn.

I'm working on:
52..Ra6 53. Ne7+ Kf7 54. Bxb4 Ra1 55. Nf5 Rb1 56. Nd4 Rh1 57. Ba5 Rxh4


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Jan-18-12
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  whiteshark: "Both were out of book early in the game today. I must admit I wasn't sure what was going on in the opening but managed to find some good moves. Aronian, who is 2nd ranked in the world, tried to create activity without really succeeding.

<I had a winning position when I went for <34.exf7+>> (instead of winning the exchange with e7) and had calculated the game continuation with bishop and knight against rook until his <43.....g5!> which I had missed. I thought white should still be winning although it was a very complicated ending.

After 6 hours play he resigned and I'm in the sole lead with 2.5/3. Have had 3 long games thus far and I'm looking forward to the first free day Wednesday. But first black against Caruana tomorrow (who is shared 2nd with Aronian and Radjabov)."

Magnus Carlsen, Wijk, Jan. 16th 2012
http://www.arcticsec.no/index.php?b...

Jan-18-12  ceebo: <OhioChessFan> After 52...Ra6 53. Ne7+ Kf7 54. Bxb4 Ra1 55. Nf5 I agree that <55...Rb1> is losing since after 56.Nd4 Rh1 57.Ba5 Rxh4 58.Nf3 Rh1 59.Be1 Black must lose the pawn by playing 59...h4 in order to prevent the Rook from being trapped.

However, after 55...Rh1 56.Nd4 Rxh4 there are no such difficulties and I believe that Black can keep his h-pawn and draw.

Jan-18-12  ceebo: Another relevant line is probably 52...Ra6 53.Ne7+ Kf7 54.Bxb4 Ra1 55.Nf5 Rh1 56.Kd4 Rh3 57.Kc4 Kf6 58.Nd4 Rxh4 and now the Knight is pinned so that 59.Be7+ Kxe7 60.Nf5+ does not work.
Jan-18-12  Ulhumbrus: The move 12...a5 may be the losing mistake because it makes the position more dangerous for Black's King in every part of the board.

On the chessdom website GM Naiditsch says of the position after Carlsen has set up a pawn centre that Aronian has no counterplay at all.

This gives us an indication of the explanation for Aronian's defeat.

After White has set up his pawn centre, Aronian has, by playing the flank pawn advances ...h5 and ...a5, made it more difficult for Black to play the pawn advances ...f7-f5 or ...c7-c5 so as to attack White's centre.

Another thing is that after 15 e4 the move 15...dxe4 concedes the centre and an advantage in space to White. It is a suboptimal move according to the chessdom analysis. An alternative to 15...dxe4 is to try to hold on to the centre by eg 15...Nb6.

It is true that whatever Black does choose at move 15, by having played the flank pawn advances ...h5 and ...c5 he has made it more difficult for himself to play the pawn advances ...f7-f5 or ...c7-c5 or ....f7-f6 against White's centre.

Jan-18-12  kappertjes: <<I had a winning position when I went for <34.exf7+>> (instead of winning the exchange with e7) and had calculated the game continuation with bishop and knight against rook until his <43.....g5!> which I had missed. I thought white should still be winning although it was a very complicated ending. >

if this refers to 46. ... g5 I wonder if he means he calculated it from 34. exf all the way to 46, a 24-odd ply (if mostly forced) continuation. I remember him spending a while before 38. Bc1 but if that was mere checking of previous calculation it is impressive he could find and calculate through the Bc1 move already at 34.

All in all a lovely game and best you can hope for. I agree with this, which is what I was fearing somewhat before the game: <Penguincw: At least it wasn't boring like last time: Aronian vs Carlsen, 2011.>

Jan-18-12  frogbert: during the game i first thought he couldn't have relied on Bc1 in advance, since that option isn't there unless aronian errs with Kh8. after Kg7 instead white doesn't win a piece on f6. of course, he still could've anticipated the possibility. houdini was quite undecided between e7 and exf7+ with the latter potentially allowing more tricks, with queens still on.
Jan-18-12
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  Kinghunt: <Whitehat1963> One continuation would be 68...Kh1 69. b8Q Rxb8 70. Kxb8 and whatever black does next, Nf3 followed by Nh2 (or Nxh2). The black pawn can't move and the white king is free to walk on over, capture it, and then begin mating. And while mating with knight and bishop is difficult for us mortals, for Carlsen it's a piece of cake (and Aronian knew this).
Jan-18-12
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  OhioChessFan: <ceebo: After 52...Ra6 53. Ne7+ Kf7 54. Bxb4 Ra1 55. Nf5 I agree that <55...Rb1> is losing since after 56.Nd4 Rh1 57.Ba5 Rxh4 58.Nf3 Rh1 59.Be1 Black must lose the pawn by playing 59...h4 in order to prevent the Rook from being trapped. However, after 55...Rh1 56.Nd4 Rxh4 there are no such difficulties and I believe that Black can keep his h-pawn and draw.>

I didn't have time to pursue that yesterday. Yes, you found the amazing zugzwangish position where Black must push h4. Maybe Rybka is better, but my Fritz10 is about worthless here.

Jan-18-12  ceebo: <OhioChessFan> I used Stockfish but I reprogrammed it so that it penalises White if he ever loses the b-pawn. Otherwise it was always too happy to go into an ending with knight, bishop and h-pawn vs rook which I don't think can be won.
Jan-18-12
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  OhioChessFan: <ceebo: After 52...Ra6 53. Ne7+ Kf7 54. Bxb4 Ra1 55. Nf5 I agree that <55...Rb1> is losing since after 56.Nd4 Rh1 57.Ba5 Rxh4 58.Nf3 Rh1 59.Be1 Black must lose the pawn by playing 59...h4 in order to prevent the Rook from being trapped. However, after 55...Rh1 56.Nd4 Rxh4 >

Looking at it, that does pretty much get back to White losing the b Pawn. If White has to lose the b Pawn, then maybe he should push the King forward eg 56. Bc5 Rh3+ 57. Kf4 Rxb3 58. Kg5


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Jan-18-12
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  OhioChessFan: Playing with the position in my last post, I'm getting a lot of tablebase draws if I capture the h5 Pawn.
Jan-18-12  ceebo: Yes, very surprising to me but those endgames appear to be drawn.
Jan-18-12
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  OhioChessFan: I think we both know two players wouldn't play this perfectly. I think it's safe to say taking the b Pawn makes life much harder for White.
Jan-19-12  PerfectPolish: Aronian missed a nice pin with the knight and bishop at 52.bd6, Ra6. Might've won him the game.
Jan-19-12  Refused: <PerfectPolish: Aronian missed a nice pin with the knight and bishop at 52.bd6, Ra6. Might've won him the game.>

Nope.

53.Ne7+ K(randomsquare)
54.Bxb4

Jan-20-12
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  kingscrusher: I have video annotated this game here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKZb...

Jan-20-12  7Heaven: Another game that shows that a combination of pieces is better, right (bishop and knight vs rook, two rooks vs queen, two bishops/knights and knight/bishop vs queen etc etc)?

Even if 2851 breaks (which I highly doubt) this won't mean that anyone is better than Kasparov-remember who showed Carlsen a thing or two?

Jan-25-12
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  rogl: <al wazir: I think black could have drawn with 57...Rd1+ 58. Kc5 Rxd6+ 59. Kxd6. White wins the P race and queens, but black can reach a stalemate position such as this:


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The white N and Q are too far away to help.> This position is actually a trivial win for white. He simply plays Qf3+ Kg1 Nd4!. Black can promote but he will be mated.

Jan-29-12
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  cornflake: This was a very complex positional/technical struggle -well played by Carlsen.
Feb-04-12  piltdown man: Masterly play by the young fella. Quite scary, really, how good will he be when he grows up?
Feb-19-12
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  LIFE Master AJ: This would make a good Saturady or Sunday puzzle.


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38.Bc1!! Rxf2+ 39.Kxf2 Rxd1 40.Bb2+ Nf6T [</= 40...Bg7?? 41.Nxg6#] 41.Bxf6+ Kh7 42.Ne6 Bd6 43.Be5! Be7 44.f8Q Bxf8 45.Nxf8+ Kh6 46.Ne6 g5 47.h4! gxh4 48.gxh4 Kg6 49.Nd4

Feb-21-12  socoban: Hi, I found amazing video analysis of this game here: http://news.chessfriends.com/video/...
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