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Levon Aronian vs David Navara
Tata Steel (2012)  ·  English Opening: Anglo-Indian Defense. King's Indian Formation (A15)  ·  0-1
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Jan-27-12
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  JohnBoy: <Ulhumbrus: One way for Black to lose is 47 Qe7 Ne6 48 f5 gf 49 Qf6 mate> - yeah, I liked 46...Qf7 better than ...Nd8.
Jan-27-12
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  Jack Kerouac: The black isolate with queens on the board; the knight can secure the King's safety I think. That runner should be enough to win. Easy for me to Kibitz but there's a reason why these players are here.
Jan-27-12
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  Memethecat: he's lost
Jan-27-12
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  Honza Cervenka: <Marmot PFL: 46...Qf7 was interesting. The problem with 46...Nd8 is 47 g5+ Kg7 48 Qe7+ Nf7 49 Qf6+ Kg8 50 Qxc6, when the knight is tied to guarding the king and there is no good pawn advance.> I don't believe that even by winning Pc6 white can save the game with piece down, if black gets his King in safety.
Jan-27-12
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  Marmot PFL: <Honza Cervenka> Didn't see a safe place for black's king. here I might still play 47...Qf7, offer the knight to get rid of some white pawns with check.
Jan-27-12
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  outplayer: i believe Aronian can draw this game.
Jan-27-12
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  Memethecat: agreed 46...Qf7 looked better
Jan-27-12
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  Honza Cervenka: 47...Ne6 48.f5 Qc2+ wins quickly.
Jan-27-12  Knight13: Upset.
Jan-27-12
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  Marmot PFL: 47...Ne6 48 Qh4+ Kg7 49 Qe7+ Kg8 50 Qe8+ and Qxc6 is still very hard.
Jan-27-12
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  Gypsy: Only a serious ??-blunder could save White.
Jan-27-12
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  Memethecat: 47...Ne6 48Qh4+ leads to perp
Jan-27-12
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  Open Defence: < Marmot PFL: 47...Ne6 48 Qh4+ Kg7 49 Qe7+ Kg8 50 Qe8+ and Qxc6 is still very hard.>

47...Ne6 48 Qh4+ Kg7 49 Qe7+ Kg8 50 Qe8+ Nf8 51 Qxc6 Qd3 should be the way to go

Jan-27-12
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  Marmot PFL: Maybe this is winning, though lots of work to do the king is safe for now, still black can't trade off his remaining pawns. Probably he can force the queen trade and win though.
Jan-27-12
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  watwinc: What do the tablebases say about Q+N v Q?
Jan-27-12
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  Jack Kerouac: Okay.Shadow boxing over. Again; the Paladin should be the difference maker. Well. I'm hitting the Road...
Jan-27-12
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  Ulhumbrus: <Honza Cervenka: 47...Ne6 48.f5 Qc2+ wins quickly.> Are you sure? On 49 Kg3 gxf5 50 Qf6 is mate
Jan-27-12
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  Marmot PFL: Funny to watch Gashimov 2 pieces down, instead of resign he traps his own king and wants to sac 2 rooks for stalemate...not much chance of radjabov missing that
Jan-27-12
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  Ulhumbrus: I wonder what Karsten Muller's book <Basic chess endings> has to say about queen and knight versus queen endings.
Jan-27-12
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  outplayer: <Ulhumbrus> this ending is far from basic.
Jan-27-12
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  Marmot PFL: <Ulhumbrus> Won't get to that. Black will force the queens off before doing any pawn moves. He defended his king position very well, with a possible mistake by with on move 45.
Jan-27-12
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  Ulhumbrus: <outplayer: <Ulhumbrus> this ending is far from basic.> Nor are rook and pawn endings but the book includes them
Jan-27-12
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  Marmot PFL: 55...Nc5 threaten Ne4+ as well as Qd3+ and white might already resign
Jan-27-12
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  Memethecat: 55...Nf6
Jan-27-12
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  Ulhumbrus: <Marmot PFL: <Ulhumbrus> Won't get to that. Black will force the queens off before doing any pawn moves. He defended his king position very well, with a possible mistake by with on move 45.> I meant that I wondered what Karsten Muller's book <Basic chess endings> had to say about queen and pawns versus queen and knight and pawns endings.
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