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Magnus Carlsen vs Gata Kamsky
Tata Steel (2012)  ·  Spanish Game: Marshall Attack. General (C89)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Jan-28-12  Penguincw: I'm surprised that it was Kamsky who was the attacking side. Around move 15, things already looked equal.
Jan-28-12  fisayo123: <penguin> The Marshall.
Jan-28-12  Penguincw: < fisayo123: <penguin> The Marshall. >

Good point. In the Marshall, black sacrifices a pawn, in exchange for an attack on the white kingside (who is lacking minor pieces).

Jan-28-12  checkmateyourmove: did magnus say in the post game interview after he Fbombed the opening or are my ears going bad? Its on chessvibes, someone else tell me what you hear :)
Jan-28-12
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  Bishoprick: Not only that. The Marshal is one of Kamsky's favorite weapons.
Jan-28-12  galdur: He did use that infamous word but I forgive him.

He did screw up a bit but wasnīt really in any danger of losing after giving up the exchange.

<Magnus, draw today?

Carlsen: Yeah! Not a very good game but fortunately I defended well enough after I f***ed up in the middlegame or opening, whatever.>

Jan-28-12
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  Calli: 45.Rf5+ simplifies and draws. Maybe Rg1 or g2 is better.
Jan-29-12  ounos: In the tail of the 16. c4 variation, I think he missed that the queen can escape to g5, threatening mate and saving the bishop in c6.

He seems to suggest that 16. f4 was the way to go ( http://www.arcticsec.no/index.php?b...)

Jul-07-12
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  visayanbraindoctor: In many cultures, swear words used under certain circumstances are emphatics, and not really malign. GM Carlsen must have been simply disappointed that he was not able to obtain a game in which he would have chances to avenge himself against Kamsky, (for grievous wounds of the past, I suspect, as in knocking him out of a previous World Championship cycle.)

Good game though; shows Carlsen's natural ability to judge his position as objectively inferior and do proficient damage control. It is Carlsen's accurate positional evaluations that allow him to save inferior games and squeeze out wins from only slightly superior ones. This talent allows him to choose positions wherein he maximizes his defensive resources, and if he is the one with an advantage, to maximize his winning chances, all the while avoiding overextending his game. In this, he has no peer in today's chess world.

Sep-12-12  Everett: <Good game though; shows Carlsen's natural ability to judge his position as objectively inferior and do proficient damage control. It is Carlsen's accurate positional evaluations that allow him to save inferior games and squeeze out wins from only slightly superior ones. This talent allows him to choose positions wherein he maximizes his defensive resources, and if he is the one with an advantage, to maximize his winning chances, all the while avoiding overextending his game. In this, he has no peer in today's chess world.>

Agreed, only Karpov had a similar skill-set.

Sep-12-12
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  perfidious: In my opinion, Lasker was superb in this aspect as well, and set the standard for that type of judgment. This was one of the qualities which set him apart from such top players as Tarrasch in his early mature career, and Alekhine, till the latter attained full flower.
Sep-12-12  master of defence: Whatīs wrong with 18.bxc6? I donīt see a way for black continue.
Sep-12-12  Jacob Arnold: <mod> maybe Qg5?
Sep-12-12  Everett: <perfidious: In my opinion, Lasker was superb in this aspect as well, and set the standard for that type of judgment. This was one of the qualities which set him apart from such top players as Tarrasch in his early mature career, and Alekhine, till the latter attained full flower.>

Agreed.

Sep-12-12
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  TheFocus: The same could be said about Korchnoi, who, IIRC, had Lasker as his hero.
Sep-12-12  Everett: <TheFocus> I don't feel much similarity between Korchnoi and Carlsen. Korchnoi is much more of a researcher, striving for an opening advantage, and a profound calculator. Carlsen does not emphasize those characteristics in his play.
Sep-12-12  Jim Bartle: I thought Korchnoi had a reputation for getting into a mess in the opening, then working his way out of it.
Sep-13-12  RookFile: Korchnoi has done just about everything. Jim, I think that was more the case when he was younger.
Sep-13-12  Everett:    <Jim Bartle: I thought Korchnoi had a reputation for getting into a mess in the opening, then working his way out of it.>

I thought his messes were from his addiction to material. He also took more time than most to assess positions, at least according to Spassky. Not an "intuitive" like Karpov.

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