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Alex Astaneh Lopez vs Eric Schiller
Tradewise Gibraltar (2012), Catalan Bay GIB, rd 5, Jan-28
Zukertort Opening: Grünfeld Reversed (A49)  ·  1-0
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Feb-10-12
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  doubledrooks: I went for 41. Rh8+, dismissing 41. Qd2 much too quickly.
Feb-10-12  Patriot: Black is up a pawn.

My senses tell me 41.Rh8+ is the way. 41...Kxh8 42.Qxg6 and h6 and e6 are hanging, with the knight ready to take action as well on g5. The bishop may also get in on the action with Bh3-e6.

One line may go, 42...Be8 43.Qxh6+ Kg8 44.Ng5.

This is all I'm doing for now.

Feb-10-12
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  Jimfromprovidence: I liked <abuzic>'s 41 Qd2 Qd1?! line.


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A good side puzzle is to understand why 42 Ng5+ does not work in this line but as he showed 42 Rh8+ does.

Feb-10-12  ZZpatzer: <chrisowen> What... The...
Frack...
Are...
You...
Trying...
To...
Communicate...???
Feb-10-12  BadKnight: I considered immediate 1.Rh8+ Kxh8 2.Qg6 followed by Qxh6+, Ng5, Qh7+ and so on, and assumed that with the black king completely exposed white should win somehow. as i see it now, apparently it does not work. so no point for me today. Qd2 did not cross my mind. in an OTB game, not knowing that there is a solution, i might have considered Qd2. this puzzle fits in "find the wrong move" pattern.
Feb-10-12  1stboard: After white plays 41 Qd2 , black plays Qb4 (?). I do not understand this move.

What is wrong with black playing 41 Be8.

It seems to me this move does several things

A ) protects the D7 square

B ) protects the g6 pawn.

C ) protects the back rank from the rook sacrafice that happened in the game.

or am I missing something ??

Feb-10-12  newton296: 41) Rh8+ is the answer!

I can win this line.

Feb-10-12  Patriot: <1stboard> <After white plays 41 Qd2 , black plays Qb4 (?). I do not understand this move. What is wrong with black playing 41 Be8.> After 41.Qd2 Qb4, he may have been trying to stop 42.Qd6. So 41.Qd2 Be8 42.Qd6 Nd5 43.Qf8 looks winning, for example.
Feb-10-12
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  agb2002: White is a pawn down.

Black threatens 41... Qxc2.

All black pieces are placed on the queenside. This suggests 41.Rh8+, to start an attack against the black castle. However, after 41... Kxh8 42.Qxg6 Bc4 43.Qxh6+ Kg8 44.Ng5 (44.Qg6+ Kf8 45.Ng5 Ke7 and the king escapes) 44... Qd7 45.Qg6+ Qg7 (45... Kf8 46.Nh7+ Ke7 47.Qf6+ Ke8 48.Qf8#) 46.Qe8+ Qf8 47.Qg6+ White only achieves perpetual.

Feb-10-12
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  agb2002: I saw 41.Qd2 but found 41.Rh8+ more interesting. Better luck tomorrow.
Feb-10-12  BadKnight: <Jimfromprovidence>41.Qd2 Qd1 simply drops a piece to 42.Qxd1 Nxd1 43.Rxd1. or am i missing something?
Feb-10-12  Patriot: <BadKnight> You're not missing anything. The simplification you showed proves it's bad for black.
Feb-10-12
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  Jimfromprovidence: <BadKnight> <41.Qd2 Qd1 simply drops a piece to 42.Qxd1 Nxd1 43.Rxd1. or am i missing something?>

That's certainly true but it's not what I was getting at.

What I was trying to say was that 42 Rh8+ is the superior move after 41 Qd2 Qd1 and that 42 Ng5+ does not work at all.

The reason 42 Ng5+ does not work is because of black's g pawn. So, if 42...hxg5 43 Qxg5, black has 43...Qh5+! and black now is winning.


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White wanted to play 44 Qe7+ but 43...Qh5+ stops that plan.

Feb-10-12
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  chrisowen: <ZZPatzer> Yes, I net it straight away hope in d2 squeeze it exactly in chap again eat in rook whisk to climbing lateral ooks in the hood at either a2 in pick up rh8 win m'lady it or queen grip h6 ie mate in seven? Ore quest affable in e8? Bishop it being slightly longer it reach in bill it sick in took on a scarred queen in a4 rabble rouse in felled would it d6 win backing cases it in.
Feb-10-12  JG27Pyth: 41.Qd2...? On Friday? Really? I rather think 42.? White to move... would have been plenty hard for Friday!

Did I mention I completely whiffed?

Feb-11-12  LIFE Master AJ: I could not get this one out of my head.

First of all, I was correct, the capture on d3 WAS correct ... both Fritz and Houdini liked this move. [>/= 34...Bxd3 35.Qxd3 Qxa3 36.Qxa3 Rxa3 37.exd5 exd5; ]

Feb-11-12  LIFE Master AJ: I did not talk about it during before, but I thought about the Knight sack on g5 ... the position after Black's 40th move:


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41.Qd2, Qb4!?; 42.Rh8+!? (Maybe - '!')

This was good, but there was something better.

[ >/= 42.Ng5+!! hxg5;
Not much choice here.

(42...Kg7 43.Nxe6+ Kf7 44.Qxh6 Kxe6 45.Bh3+ Kxe5 46.Qg5+ Ke4 47.Qf4#)

43.Qxg5 Nd5 44.Bxd5 exd5 45.Qf6, ]

42...Kxh8; 43.Qxh6+ Kg8; 44.Qxg6+ Kf8; 45.Ng5 Be8; 46.Qh6+ Ke7; 47.Qg7+, 1-0

Feb-12-12  drukenknight: I see AJ's suggestion 34...Bxd3 seems to make sense, but even later, what's wrong with 36...Rc3?
Feb-12-12  LIFE Master AJ: Hello to the Tallahasse crowd, its been a long time since I got over that way ...

This morning - I got an e-mail, asking me what I thought of Schiller's play in this game.

To be honest, I thought that Schiller had outplayed his higher-rated opponent for most of the game, only a few mis-steps at the end ... gave White the point.

Feb-12-12  TheFocus: <Eric Schiller> aka <TheFocus>.

Right, <AJ>? Do you still think we are one and the same person?

Feb-12-12  King Death: <TheFocus> That's a silly question, obviously you are!
Feb-12-12  TheFocus: <AJ> Why don't you do a video on this Schiller/Focus game?

Your fans await it.

Feb-12-12  Nemesistic: Dont ask him a direct question or confront him with facts for goodness sake!
Feb-12-12  LIFE Master AJ: Of course, in the end, Schiller failed ... and all that really matters, is that he could not finish. (And his opponent won brilliantly.)
Feb-12-12  TheFocus: Happy Birthday, <AJ>!
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