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Vladimir Kramnik vs Levon Aronian
Kramnik vs Aronian (2012)  ·  Semi-Slav Defense: General (D43)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Apr-27-12
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  Ulhumbrus: In an individual game Capablanca would play bridge all night and then analyze the position for fifteen minutes before gaining a draw. However not even Capablanca could afford to underestimate Alekhine in a match
Apr-27-12
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  Domdaniel: <TheDiamond> Verbs change. As the mob guys said to your cousin Legs Diamond in the eponymous movie, "The world's changing, Mr Diamond".

Oops, right, internet protocol, smiley.

;)

Apr-27-12  MindCtrol9: <queenforpawns> Thank you.My avatar does not mean anything,only respect to one of the best players of all times like any othe avatar players choose.
Apr-27-12
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  whiteshark: Houdini gives 0.0 with <44. Rxg6 Nxf3 45. Nxf3 Rxf3 46. Nxe6 fxg4 47. hxg4 Rd3+ 48. Ke2 Rd2+ 49. Kf3 Rd3+ 50. Ke2 Rd2+> in the final position
Apr-27-12
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  Domdaniel: Speakina change, whatever happened to the folks who used to label Vlad as 'Drawnik'? Did they grow up? Find more decisive hobbies, like arm-wrestling with Barbie dolls?
Apr-27-12
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  queenfortwopawns: <DomDaniel> I heard they were watching Jersey Shore with the Drawnand group.
Apr-27-12  MindCtrol9: <Domdaniel>What happens is they don't understand this game,yet or have nothing in their minds.
Apr-27-12  kia0708: :-)))))

<Domdaniel: Find more decisive hobbies, like arm-wrestling with Barbie dolls>

Apr-27-12
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  haydn20: <Diamond> love/envy yr avatar. scrabble tile, but could also be name of a mathematical group or other structure.
Apr-27-12  MindCtrol9: It would be good <wood dust> having as a brain for some players lol.
Apr-27-12
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  lost in space: hmm, another drawn.
Apr-27-12  King Death: <Domdaniel: ...As the mob guys said to your cousin Legs Diamond in the eponymous movie, "The world's changing, Mr Diamond"...>

Cousin Legs sure learned that lesson the hard way.

Apr-27-12  hugogomes: So, all will be decided in the last game.
Apr-27-12  AVRO38: So let's see...Kramnik plays 1.Nf3 twice and fails to win both times, and plays 1.e4 once and wins...hmmmm, notice a pattern Vlad?

And now comes the final game with the match tied and Aronian playing white. Sounds like a great match strategy by Kramnik. Play 1.Nf3 with white and put your opponent in the driver's seat in the final game!

Apr-27-12
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  twinlark: More to the point, why didn't take the pawn on move 36, ie: <36. Nxg6+>?:


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It may not win, but it certainly creates chances for himself and livens up the game!

Apr-27-12  LoveThatJoker: <twinlark> I agree that this was White's best chance to mix it up. Furthermore, as GM Shipov pointed out in his analysis in Chessvibes, White would have retained a advantage after the complications were done.

This said it is a quasi-double-edged line - and an extensive one at that - and at that point Kramnik had only like like 10 minutes left on his clock maybe even less; so he can't be faulted for playing it safe going into the time control!

LTJ

Apr-27-12
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  wordfunph: Kramnik - Aronian

after 33.Nexc1


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"Oh, he wants to play for a win. I thought you were still waiting for the three hour rule."

- GM Levon Aronian (2820)

http://www.chess.co.uk/twic/chessne...

Apr-28-12  strongking: The match is at fantastic stage. It could go to either way.
Apr-28-12
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  HeMateMe: Is there one more game, in this thing?
Apr-28-12
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  HeMateMe: I guess VK calculated that if both sides start gobbling, Aronian would give birth first.
Apr-28-12
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  HeMateMe: One of those match commentators reminds me of Doc Oc (Dr. Octavius) from the Spiderman comics. He was the mad scientist with 8 mechanical arms, who always wore dark glasses, indoors or outdoors.
Apr-28-12
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  lost in space: White threw away all his (small) advantage with 16. Ba6...exchanging his good bishop against the bad one from Black. Afterwards the game is = or even a bit better for Black

A more logical continuation would have been
16. Ne5 a6 17. Rd2 b5 18. Qd1 Qd6 19. Rdc2 Rac8 20. f4 Nd7 with slight advantage white. Maybe not enough to win but still with pressure and a complex and rich position compared to what happened in the game.


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Apr-28-12  Atking: 42...Ka6 43.Nc6 b5 is that so clear?
Apr-28-12  Atking: Ok I see 44.Nb8+ Kb6 45.Nd7 and K7 then 46.axb threatening 47.Nc5+ K8 (Kb6/Rb7# or Kd6/Rd7#) 48.b6 is too dangerous. So the perpetual is inevitable.
Apr-30-12
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  Domdaniel: <King Death> -- <Cousin Legs sure learned that lesson the hard way.>

Very true. The full quote from the movie 'The Rise and Fall of Legs Diamond' is "The world's changing, Mr Diamond -- I suggest you leave it". And then the New Mob make arrangements to speed his departure, as you implied.

But <TheDiamond> seems like a diamond geezer (ie, good person) so I didn't want to risk offending him with the full version.

Great line, though.

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