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Alberto David vs Hikaru Nakamura
Italian Team Championships (2012), Arvier ITA, rd 2, Apr-28
Dutch Defense: Nimzo-Dutch Variation (A90)  ·  0-1
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Apr-29-12  Rook E1: Yay go Nakamura! But why is he on the Italian team? I'm confused.
Apr-29-12  JohnBoy: Is 50.Bxg4 so bad? What I see is 50...Rg4+ 51.Kh2 Rxg4 52.Kxh3 and it looks like white will be playing a pawn down in a greatly simplified position. The kingside passers strangling the white king are gone and its now not impossible to foresee a draw.

Okay - going a little further, maybe 52...Rxb4 53.Nd3 Rd4 followed by 54...Nf4+ and 55...Nxd5 secures another pair of connected passers. Still, the game continuation is hopeless for white.

Nice closing combination by Naka.

Apr-29-12  donehung: Man Nakamura plays like a beast in this game. In my eyes anyway, showing why hes one of the worlds leading players.
Apr-29-12  solskytz: I supposed that playing 27. Qxf6 Qxf6 28. Bxf6 Rxf6 and only then 29. Bb3 would be kind of unpleasant for Nakamura, whose winning chances would suddenly diminish
Apr-30-12  JohnBoy: I don't know, <solskytz> - it looks like 29...Rf7 leaves black doing just fine. The rook sits on the a file with potential to harry (like ...Ra3), the knight goest to e8 and f6, and white has surrendered the nice bishop on the long diagonal. I doubt that the exchange you propose would have irritated Naka much at all.
Apr-30-12  haydn20: Two patzer questions I hope a better player will answer. Does anyone but Nakamura play the Dutch seriously? Doesn't just plain 38. Qxg4 win outright?
Apr-30-12  Everett: <haydn20: Two patzer questions I hope a better player will answer. Does anyone but Nakamura play the Dutch seriously? Doesn't just plain 38. Qxg4 win outright?>

I think Nakamura may be the only top player who does play the Dutch regularly, and certainly the Leningrad. Radjabov played the Stonewall and its sidelines in his youth, along with the French, when he was going through his Botvinnik stage.

I think <38.Qxg4 Bxg4 39.Rxf7+ Kg6 40.Rf2 Bxh3> is alright for Black. There are not many safe squares for White along the f-file.

Apr-30-12  haydn20: <Everett> Thanks! In your line after 41. Kh2 Bg2 42. Kxg2 Nf5 43. Bc2 I don't see how Black avoids losing a piece. Also I wonder if later 48. Rf5 is better than the game.
Apr-30-12  Everett: < haydn20: <Everett> Thanks! In your line after 41. Kh2 Bg2 42. Kxg2 Nf5 43. Bc2 I don't see how Black avoids losing a piece. Also I wonder if later 48. Rf5 is better than the game.>

Hmm.. Perhaps in my line 40..Bxh3 is optimistic for Black. What do you think is the best retreat square for the bishop?

48.Rf5 does look like an improvement. I dont see how Black avoids the exchange of rooks, and this seems to favor White. Still, the first player does have the terrible Nb2 to get into play...

May-01-12  dumbgai: Nf3-h4-f3-h4 didn't work too well.
May-01-12
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  crafty: 38. ♕xg4 ♗xg4 39. ♖xf7+ ♔g6 40. ♖f2 ♗xh3 41. ♔h2   (eval 3.20; depth 17 ply; 500M nodes)
May-01-12  haydn20: <Everett> I tried some lines after 38. Qxg4 Bxg4 39. Rxf7+ Kg6 40. Rf2 Bd7, e.g., 41. Kh2 Nf5 42. Rcf1 Nh6 43. Bc2+ Kh5 and maybe Black survives. I think I'll let Fritz run it overnight & see what happens!
May-01-12  haydn20: Arghh! In my last post ending in 43...Kh5, it seems 44. Bh7 is devastating.
May-02-12
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  OhioChessFan: So is 44. Bd1+
May-05-12  solskytz: <JohnBoy>

Doing fine, sure man, we have no argument... notice that I was speaking about winning chances.

In your variation, after 29...Rf7 30. Ra1, the a file is contested, not controlled by you.

You can still win because you are Nakamura, but at least we got some wood off and a draw is that much closer :-]

May-06-12  Ulhumbrus: 13 d5 closes the d file after 13...e5. An alternative is to wait for Black to play the advance ...e5 eg by 13 Ne1 Bxg2 14 Nxg2 e5 15 de de 16 Ne3 and the knight heads for d5
May-09-12  JohnBoy: Total agreement, <solskytz>.
Nov-02-15
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  Domdaniel: < Does anyone but Nakamura play the Dutch seriously?> Uh, Moskalenko and Williams have written books on the Dutch. Looking back, there was a World Championship match in the 1950s where almost all of the games were Dutch Defences.

It's not a serious question, is it?

Nov-02-15
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  Domdaniel: The really interesting question is why the Dutch should be relatively popular, but the Reversed Dutch - aka Bird's Opening, 1.f4 - is seen significantly less often.
Nov-02-15
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  perfidious: <Dom> My tired old brain does not recollect exactly where, but I recall an annotator (perhaps in an early collection on Short) writing of how--and believe it was of 1.f4 vis--vis the Dutch and how the latter bespoke aggression, whereas it was not quite the same with 1.f4.

Interesting bit of psychology: round about 1985, I was very often playing John A Curdo and took up some of his own favourites against him, including 5.d4 vs his Modern Steinitz and the From against the Bird's, an opening he adopted from time to time. Got to the point where John would neither essay 1.f4 nor go into 1.e4 e5 openings as Black; always figured he was uncomfortable playing, as it were, against himself.

Nov-03-15
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  Domdaniel: <perf> I think that may be the reason for the relative unpopularity of 1.f4 -- a lot of people play 1...e5 against it, certainly more than play sharp lines against the Dutch. As Black, playing a Dutch, I've had to meet the Staunton and Korchnoi Gambits (though I normally avoid the Staunton by playing 1.d4 e6 and then 2.c4 f5). As White, I used to like the Lisitsyn Gambit, 1.Nf3 f5 2.e4... but now I prefer 2,d3. I've rarely played 1.f4, though I somehow feel that it belongs in my repertoire.
Nov-03-15
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  perfidious: <Dom> Here is a Lisitsyn you may remember where the gloves come off from the start: J Dunning vs J Curdo, 1979.

A favourite saying of Curdo was: <The aggression is in the intent>.

In temperament, John was outwardly as mild as they came and always behaved in gentlemanly fashion, but displayed great ferocity at the board. One of the good guys, and worthy of respect.

Jun-18-17
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  The Chess Express: <perfidious> Which John do you refer to?
Jun-18-17
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  perfidious: Curdo; only played two events with Dunning that I recall and we never met, whereas Curdo and I played some 35-40 games from 1978-2001, four of which are in this DB.
Jun-18-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  The Chess Express: Which ones?
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