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Ray Robson vs Gata Kamsky
US Championship (2012)  ·  Sicilian Defense: Katalimov Variation (B27)  ·  1/2-1/2
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May-09-12  balzarius: Is 6...e5 advisable here?
May-09-12
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  Clodhopper: Also, white almost has to castle Q-side, I think. Robson likes to do this anyway, he's a natural K-side attacker. But his opponent today is tougher than usual.
May-09-12
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  Shams: Apparently 2...b6 is the Katalimov variation. Never heard of him.
May-09-12  goldenbear: Already it appears 3.d4 is unpromising...
May-09-12  offramp: After 6...e5 7.Nf5 puts a bit of a crimp on black's position.
May-09-12  shaikriyaz: I would like 6..Nf6
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  HeMateMe: Any of you tech people know what the time delay is, in a broadcast like this? Meaning, there is probably a universal feed coming from St. Louis with many sites capturing and running it through their own site (I'm so technical). Obviously two such players would make the first six moves as fast as they could write down the moves, and this is bit backed up.

I'm guessing the delay is about three minutes per move.

May-09-12  DanielBryant: On his live commentary, Finegold is wondering if the opening was even relayed correctly.
May-09-12  goldenbear: White should have played for b4 instead of d4, in analogy with the Wing Gambit, where b6 is often suicidal...
May-09-12  balzarius: White could play this like a pseudo-Yugoslav attack with f3,g4,Qd2,long castle,Bc4 taking into account that Black's KS is underdeveloped and try an attack on the exposed enemy king,perhaps.
May-09-12  goldenbear: That is a fine plan, but in my opinion, Black already stands very well.
May-09-12  goldenbear: Theoretically b6? is too slow. The right response for White theoretically is the "fastest" response. b4 is the fastest response...
May-09-12  balzarius: 7.Nxc6 is worth a look also at least according to the computer.
May-09-12  offramp: 7.f3 Yes! I was right. Perhaps he is going to play g4, h4 etc.
May-09-12
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  Sneaky: It's obvious what Kamsky is doing: avoid every conceivable trick that the tricky teen has up his sleeve. What's the old Russian expression? With children, straight to the endgame!
May-09-12
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  Wild Bill: <After 6...Nf6>

<7. f3 e6 8. Qd2 Nxd4 9. Bxd4 Rc8 10. 0-0-0> gives White a small advantage in space (Milos-Limp, Op, Sao Paulo, 2002)

May-09-12  goldenbear: Yes, but this plan is weaker here than in "normal" Sicilians since b7 is a better square for the bishop than e6(d7).
May-09-12  goldenbear: I think 7.g6 is coming, by the way...
May-09-12
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  Robin01: Is this still theory?
May-09-12
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  Sneaky: This "straight to the endgame" strategy might backfire horribly if Kamsky simply finds himself on the wrong side of the Yugoslav attack.
May-09-12  balzarius: I don't think White has anything special out of the opening;Black stands very solid here.
May-09-12  goldenbear: <Robin1> We left "theory" on move 2...
May-09-12  offramp: Black might aim for ...e6,...a6, ...g6, ...Qc7 and we'd be back to a fairly standard Sicilian position.
May-09-12
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  Stonehenge: CG has two games with 7...e6:

A Jurkovic vs L Faddi, 2007

G Milos vs E Limp, 2002

May-09-12  shalgo: <Is this still theory?>

It depends on what you mean by "theory." It has all been played before (I count at least 11 games), but it is not like top players have spent much time studying this position or have played it against each other.

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