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Boris Gelfand vs Viswanathan Anand
Anand - Gelfand World Championship Match (2012), Moscow RUS, rd 6, May-18
Semi-Slav Defense: Accelerated Meran Variation (D45)  ·  1/2-1/2


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May-18-12  anjyplayer: English, Kings Indian both as Black and White can bring results.
May-18-12  blazerdoodle: This is a lousy format, true. Draws should not be counted in a world championship match.
May-18-12  blazerdoodle: Of course, I realize you already know this. Kasparov's right, but remember, this isn't for the best player in the world, it's for the World Championship. In my mind, it's like boxing. How long can the winner stay on top and who's going to do what it takes to take him out?
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  Eyal: <18.Qe2 Qe4! 19.Qd3 Qxd3 20.Rxd3 Rfd8 21.Rxd8+ Rxd8 and the rook comes to d1)> To continue this line a bit: 22.Kf1 Rd1+ 23.Ke2 Rh1 (or g1) 24.h3 (or g3) Be7:

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followed by Bf6, and White cannot untangle his pieces.

Btw, the reason that <14...0-0!> (if Black can get away with it) is better than Rd8 is that ideally Black would like to place his rooks on c8 & d8, so placing his queen's rook on d8 is a slight concession.

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  MichaelJHuman: I will say I am poor chess player before I say this. But this game seemed a bit dull :)
May-18-12  xanadu: One of the most amazing, exciting game in a long time! Considering this match, the present game is apotheotic!!! I canīt sleeep thinking about the sacricies and countersacrifices, the strategic problemas, innovations, etc, arised by this fantastic game!!
May-18-12  Caissanist: <This is a lousy format, true. Draws should not be counted in a world championship match.>

Well, you can question the format, but you sure can't blame it for the preponderance of draws or the dull chess. Anyone who remembers the 1984 match knows this.

May-18-12  lost in space: Boring. Will not leave my space bar for such bloodless draws.
May-18-12  Ulhumbrus: <Memethecat: <Ulhumbrus: <Memethecat> You may wish to consider taking a look at Lasker's manual of chess.> Thanks for the suggestion. Does it deal specifically with my 'problem'? I'm sure its a common difficulty for mediocre players.> It is possible that Lasker's book will give a pointer or two. If you stand worse it is unlikely that any combination which favours you exists in the position while if you stand much better, it becomes much more likely that a combination in your favour exists. In this connection Irving Chernev's book "Logical chess move by move" may have a thing or two to say as well. However I fear that I am repeating the remarks of Lasker or Irving Chernev, and to some extent WGM Pogonina's remarks as well. I suggest that you take a look at either book and see what you think.
May-18-12  muwatalli: <Joshka> I agree with everything that you just said.
May-18-12  Blunderdome: 1984 was not so long ago.
May-19-12  RookFile: This game is an excellent effort by Anand. Gelfand just sort of went with the flow.
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  Richard Taylor: < Memethecat: <Richard Taylor> You'll be happy to hear,(as I am)that The Ashes will be back on terrestrial TV in 2013, should be good for the game & fans. Tarrasch! excellent free chess programme, I use it more than all others put together. >

Yes! I use it with Komodo. Bill Forster (who I have played in fact) had a computer business (I believe) and then he developed this to aid such as myself and others who find Fritz etc rather user unfriendly. I use it as our chess club (the ACC in Auckland, NZ) has its own mag (weekly) started by Edward Tanoi I do the PGNs then annotate a selection of the games while two others do some other other games. Edward uses Chess Base and puts the mag together. It is very popular as it concerns club members' games. The ratings are not high but it helps the Club atmosphere and possibly helps some of the players study their games, it is more important to me than GM games as I don't understand them! We have hundreds of Chinese kids wanting to play chess these days...and some become very strong. I regularly get beaten by little boys or girls who can hardly see over the chess table!! Last week I missed a fork on my R and Q, bother!! Indian kids don't play as much which is surprising as the World Champion is from India. But India is a big place (as China is...hmm...) and I suppose there are more regional differences than China but I don't really know the reason, but whatever it is, there seems to be less interest from Indian players here, as we have lot of people who have immigrated from India here.

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  Richard Taylor: Well this match has been massively underwhelming so far!!

They should just bring on the blitz for the boys!!

The fans want to see some blood!!

May-19-12  Rook E1: I think it's better to have the #1 and #2 ranked players play to see who can win points off the others, giving the #2 a chance to overtake the #1.

Draws are just part of chess, neither one of them can get an edge on the other. They should really be playing it out though, especially the ones where many don't know why it's a draw. They are getting paid 2.5 million dollars for this?? Do it for the fans.

May-19-12  Caissas Clown: I wonder if all those criticising the draws,have among their number quite a few aficionados of chess engines?

I don't know if , say , Fischerandom or any of the suggestions here will help to spice up chess.

But perhaps we should accept that the draws are due , in no small measure , to the present rules + technology + thoroughly prepared , thoroughly professional seconds!

Calling either player "cowardly" is rather negative.Maybe we'd be better to praise the "unworthy" Gelfand for not losing to the World Champion.

May-19-12  eyalbd: My suggestion:

Like in basketball, a session never ends with a draw. If in a classical time control the game is drawn, then there should be at the same day, two rapid games and later, if needed, a blindfold and/or a blitz session.

This way each day has its winner.

There is a problem though. The match winner can be the one who has a minus score in the classical games. This can be solved by giving the rapid / blitz / blind a smaller weight in the point count.

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  kevin86: Another draw! It looks like the Kentucky Derby with restrictor plates on the horses.
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  maxi: <Eyal> If in an opening White has to play a series of moves such as 18.Qe2 Qe4 19.Qd1 for the sake of a Pawn, something is very wrong. Forget the Pawn, White will be lucky to draw.

We are watching a very theoretical match, so far...

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  Eyal: <maxi> Yeah, Anand's 14...0-0 looks very effective - if Black doesn't have to bother defending the pawn on d5, perhaps it just refutes the line for White. It looks like an especially good version of a Tarrasch for Black.
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  maxi: The Black c Pawn gets to c5 in two moves, c6-c5. Any comments on that?
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  maxi: Notice that Black avoids Be7 and Nbd7.
May-21-12  serenpidity.ejd: For lucifer's sake, please entertain us boys. Right now, I am bored with this kind of play. Both of you are wasting my battery!
May-21-12  serenpidity.ejd: Game 7 is what I mean.Congrats Boris.
May-25-12  Chess Network: I've created a YouTube video of this game.

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