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Boris Gelfand vs Viswanathan Anand
Anand-Gelfand World Chess Championship (2012)  ·  Nimzo-Indian Defense: Normal Variation. Gligoric System Exchange at c4 (E54)  ·  1/2-1/2
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May-23-12
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  Ulhumbrus: <whiteshark: Interesting material imbalance:QB : RNNP: It looks promising.> Let me count it. 9 + 3 = 12. 5 + 3 + 3+ 1 = 12. This suggests that the chances are even. The suggestion need not be right but Black may succeed in getting a draw.
May-23-12
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  VargPOD: Maybe Gelfand wanted to avoid double-edged positions after the fiasco in the Game Eight. White has slight edge and no fear of losing (except blunders of course).
May-23-12
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  okba12: keep threatening the queen -may assures Anand a draw
May-23-12
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  Natalia Pogonina: Btw, Anand LOVES playing with the knights. At his command those wild horses are of kamikadze strength.
May-23-12
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  twinlark: Svidler thinks that Vishy can hold this position without breaking a sweat and that a draw is highly likely at this stage.

Cue to get some sleep for some on this side of the planet.

May-23-12
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  Benzol: <In the bush somewhere - pig hunting -do you know? Relative of Johnny Cash?>

No relly of Johnny Cash but I heard a few things. I saw a TV play they made of it a few years ago and found parts of it absolutely hilarious.

May-23-12
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  haydn20: It was sad to see that LSB go. I expected Bxf6 before the N's have a chance to get active.
May-23-12
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  Octavia: @ move 23 Svidler is disappointed as he thinks its a = in a technical ending which he can see. He doesn't realise that for a lot of us there is nothing clear about it!
May-23-12
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  Domdaniel: <At his command those wild horses are of kamikadze strength.> Maybe, but it's a double-edged type of strength. Definitely not healthy in the long run.
May-23-12
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  sorokahdeen: Suddenly, the diagonal by which white can best defend the rook on d1 is looking shorter and shorter. Interesting!
May-23-12  frogbert: an anand "on top form" would hold it without breaking a sweat - but *is* anand in his best shape? :o)
May-23-12
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  Richard Taylor: Benzol I haven't read that book - read Crump years ago. He was a heavy drinker and he used to beat up his wives. Once he broke one woman's leg.
May-23-12
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  Natalia Pogonina: It is also worth mentioning that Anand is now up 10 minutes on the clock. And, as you might remember, Gelfand had a commanding time advantage after the opening, close to half an hour.
May-23-12
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  Ulhumbrus: <Octavia: @ move 23 Svidler is disappointed as he thinks its a = in a technical ending which he can see. He doesn't realise that for a lot of us there is nothing clear about it!> Perhaps someone needs to be able to ask him the right question eg "Can you tell us how this leads to a more elementary drawn ending?"
May-23-12
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  sorokahdeen: Is white's best Qb3, with Rc2 as black's answer? Really interesting!
May-23-12
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  Benzol: Maybe 25.Qb3 here.
May-23-12  capanegra: <Natalia Pogonina <Btw, Anand LOVES playing with the knights. At his command those wild horses are of kamikadze strength.>>

Your remark has reminded me a statement made by Kramnik in a 2011 interview, taken from the Anand site:

<I always considered him to be a colossal talent, one of the greatest in the whole history of chess. Each champion has had some sort of speciality, and his is creating counterplay in any position out of absolutely nowhere. He's got an amazing ability to constantly stretch himself so that even in some kind of Exchange Slav he nevertheless manages to attack something and create something. He also plays absolutely brilliantly with knights, even better than Morozevich – if his knights start to jump around, particularly towards the king, then that's that, it's impossible to play against and they’ll just sweep away everything in their path. I noticed it's better to get rid of them when you're playing against him.>

May-23-12
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  okba12: R-8 TO-C2 looks good
May-23-12
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  Octavia: <Ulli> may be Natalia can tell us how to achieve this technical ending?
May-23-12
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  Natalia Pogonina: One of the possible fortresses is Nd5 and Rc7 if the rook and bishop get traded. No chances to win the a pawn.

The worst case scenario for Black is that he will have to give up a piece for the a-pawn. But even Q+3 pawns vs R and 4 pawns is by far not always winning. Depends on the pawn structure.

May-23-12
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  Memethecat: I arrived late & a lot of comments didn't make sense, until just now when I realised Anand is black. Ooops
May-23-12
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  whiteshark: <Ulhumbrus: <whiteshark: Interesting material imbalance:QB : RNNP: It looks promising.> Let me count it. 9 + 3 = 12. 5 + 3 + 3+ 1 = 12. This suggests that the chances are even. The suggestion need not be right but Black may succeed in getting a draw>

Well it doesn't come that often, so I called it 'promising' (from the spectator's view point)

<The average value of the queen (if the opposing side does not have the bishop pair) is that of a rook, a minor piece and 1½ pawns. The knight is fractionally stronger than the bishop when supporting the rook in its struggle against a queen. The value of a queen and pawn is the same as that of two rooks, when no minor pieces are present. When both sides have 2 or more minor pieces, the queen does not need a pawn to equal the two rooks in value. In the situation of queen against 2 rooks with 5-8 pawns on each side, the advantage of the rooks is a tiny one; when there are at the most 4 pawns per side, the rook has an advantage of approximately ½ a pawn. A queen and half a pawn equals 3 minor pieces.>

Game Collection: 52b_Midddlegames with RN vs Queen (and endgames)

May-23-12
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  sorokahdeen: The possibility of nf4 threatening rd1+ followed by rook c1 makes me wish I was a better player.
May-23-12
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  Arcturus: Natalia, how long do you think we will see this trend continue, that trend of 1.d4 being the opening of world championships?
May-23-12
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  haydn20: 25...Ng6?! 26. Bxf6 gxf6 looks bad for Black. What am I missing?
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