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Vladimir Kramnik vs Alexander Grischuk
Tal Memorial (2012)  ·  King's Indian Defense: Orthodox Variation. Bayonet Attack (E97)  ·  1-0
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Jun-10-12  HeMateMe: "My Pin's better than YOUR Pin!"
Jun-10-12  Ulhumbrus: Instead of 20...Kh7 20..Qc7 offers to return the pawn eg 21 Ba3 c5 22 cd Rd6 trying to avoid opening the game
Jun-10-12  Chess Network: I did a video covering this game. :)

Jun-10-12  orthopod: is 20...d4 a viable option for grischuk?
Jun-10-12  WiseWizard: <orthopod>I think 21. Ba3 would put too much pressure on the light squares.
Jun-12-12  SharpAttack: " You pin, I pin, but I win!" or " I pin, you pin but I win!"
Jun-12-12  Whitehat1963: In 10 years or so, the final move would make for an excellent one-move Wednesday/Thursday puzzle.
Jun-12-12  Bdellovibrio: <Who can forget that great Candidates duel between these two!>

Clearly Kramnik hasn't forgotten.

Jun-13-12  Raginmund: Great game, great prodution of a great genius.

Kramnik forever!

Jun-13-12  coolchess1: Vlady in this kind of form makes chess look so good. The master is on song, wishing him all the best.

"I pin and pinch"

Jun-14-12  maelith: <BadKnight: Challenging Kramnik in the kings indian territory is a tough business.>

VK is a KID and Grunfeld slayer..

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  Shams: <maelith><VK is a KID and Grunfeld slayer>

Then let's hope he has White against Caruana, who has been shutting down everyone in sight with his Grunfeld recently.

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  Eisenheim: the ending looks masterful, and whites position looks superior, but is there a smoking gun ending? If 29...rf6, 30 Qxh5+ Kg8, then the white queen needs to retreat as the pin is off, 31 Qe2 and still there is play. what am i missing?
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  Eyal: <the ending looks masterful, and whites position looks superior, but is there a smoking gun ending? If 29...rf6, 30 Qxh5+ Kg8, then the white queen needs to retreat as the pin is off, 31 Qe2 and still there is play. what am i missing?>

That's bad enough for Black, but 30.Rd7 (another point of Qd1) is even stronger for White - 30...Qe6 (30...Qe8 31.Qxh5+ Kg8 32.Bd5+) 31.Rxb7 and Black is utterly helpless (in addition to all the other troubles, there's now an advanced a-pawn passer); e.g. 31...Qd6 32.Qxd6 Rxd6 33.Rxg7+ Kxg7 34.Bxa8.

Jun-15-12  visayanbraindoctor: From both an aesthetic and technical point of view, this is the best game of the tournament so far.

I like it when Kramnik opens up with Nf3, which he fortunately does a lot of times, especially in the 1990s. Being uncommon, it tends to makes his opponent think immediately.

I wonder what Grischuk had in mind by playing the KID, knowing Kramnik's propensity for impaling it with the bayonet attack. Here is a brief summary of Kramnnik's bayonet massacre:

Kramnik vs Judit Polgar, 1996

Kramnik vs Kasparov, 1997

Kramnik vs Shirov, 1997

Kramnik vs A Giri, 2011

Kramnik vs Grischuk, 2012

Jun-21-12  Ulhumbrus: After 11 Ng5 one justification for the pawn sacrifice 11...f4 12 Bxh5 gxh5 13 Qh5 is that the move 13...h6 both answers the threat of 14 Qxh7 mate and forces the knight out of the square g5. Then on 14 Ne6 Bxe6 15 dxe6 c6 keeps White's queen's knight out of the square d5 and so prepares the move ...Rf6, while on 14 Nf3 Rf6 is possible at once.
Jul-17-12  LIFE Master AJ: If Korchnoi vs Fischer, 1970 is considered (by many) to THE classic win for Black in the King's Indian Defense, then Kramnik vs Grischuk, 2012 (this game!) must be considered to be THE classic win for White!!!!

- A.J. Goldsby I

Jul-17-12  LIFE Master AJ: (One fan sent me an e-mail and suggested that I annotate this game, but I doubt if too many people would be interested in that.)
Jul-17-12  visayanbraindoctor: I am beginning to think that in the future this

J Gustafsson vs Kramnik, 2012

might be considered as the classical win for Black in the 'open' KID set-up.

Jul-18-12  LIFE Master AJ: J Gustafsson vs Kramnik, 2012

An UNBELIEVABLE game, truly!

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  wordfunph: "It was a smooth and instructive game, which at some stage in the future I may include in my book How to Win Against the King's Indian. I won quite a lot of games against the King's Indian and this was a nice model game for how to play this Bayonet-type of position."

- Vladimir Kramnik

Source: NIC Magazine 2012 #5

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  notyetagm: Kramnik vs Grischuk, 2012


Jan-16-15  Conrad93: How do you play against 9. b4? I haven't seen any convincing games from the black side.
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  perfidious: Only game I ever had facing 9.b4, back in 1993, I tried 9....c5. What would I play today? Who knows?
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  MissScarlett: Who cares?
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