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|Jun-09-12|| ||asiduodiego: I don't get the point of this: more than "fighting spirit" this looks childish. It's looks like trying to just bore your opponent, playing a position without chances. |
IMHO, having "Fighting spirit" is trying risky stuff, searching complications, not playing dead drawn positions, with no risk whatsoever, for boring 50 additional moves.
|Jun-09-12|| ||lost in space: At least Naka hasn't tried to mate his opponent after move 107. He seems to learn.|
|Jun-09-12|| ||BadKnight: Where did Naka miss win?|
|Jun-09-12|| ||Harvestman: Generally agree with your points jml, except that there is no obligation for an opponent to acknowledge a draw offer, or respond to it, unless they choose to. It doesn't automatically mean that your opponent is slighting you, just that they are concentrating on the game.|
Of course, if the position is an obvious dead draw, like this one, there may be more to it than that...
|Jun-09-12|| ||AVRO38: <dumbgai><<AVRO38> I think Nakamura was born in Japan, not the US.>|
Who said he was born in the U.S.?
<Edmontonchessclub><Avro38, Nakamura was not born a U.S. Citizen.>
Yes he was.
|Jun-09-12|| ||Bozantium: His Wikipedia page says that he was born in Japan.|
|Jun-09-12|| ||dx9293: <Bozantium> Nakamura was born in Japan, but his mother is American, so he WAS born a U.S. citizen, far as I can tell.|
|Jun-09-12|| ||HowDoesTheHorsieMove: <Of course, if the position is an obvious dead draw, like this one, there may be more to it than that...>|
In this case the draw offer was made only seconds before it was a draw by rule. I think it was reasonable to ignore the offer.
|Jun-09-12|| ||Jim Bartle: If one of the parents is a US citizens and the child is born outside the US, it's not automatic that the child is a US citizen. The parent who is a citizen has to prove he or she lived four or five (can't remember) consecutive years in the US before the age of 21. School or college transcripts are the usual proof which is provided.|
|Jun-10-12|| ||dumbgai: <AVRO38> Okay, clearly my understanding of citizenship rules is incomplete. You could have just explained to me without getting rhetorical.|
|Jun-10-12|| ||solskytz: <Avro 38>?
The guy is old news. I didn't see his post of course, but as far as I know him he was probably being more 'rhetrollical'.
I tend to put on ignore people who tend to act offensive. Nothing personal - just plain hygiene.
|Jun-10-12|| ||keypusher: <Jim Bartle: If one of the parents is a US citizens and the child is born outside the US, it's not automatic that the child is a US citizen. The parent who is a citizen has to prove he or she lived four or five (can't remember) consecutive years in the US before the age of 21. School or college transcripts are the usual proof which is provided.>|
Back when I was a vice-consul 20+ years ago (shudder) it was 5 years, two of which had to come after the age of 14 (thinking being someone who spent his teen years in the U.S. had stronger ties than if he had spent his first five years here and then left, never to return).
|Jun-13-12|| ||SirRuthless: He was born Christopher Hikaru Nakamura to a Japanese father and white American mother in Japan, Hirakata prefecture i think and came to US at age of 2. To say he wasn't born an American is kind of a semantic game. Like saying Obama wasn't born an American. His mother is American as apple pie.|
|Jun-13-12|| ||JustAFish: <Like saying Obama wasn't born an American.>|
Actually, not like that at all. Obama was born in Hawaii a few years after it became a state. Nakamura was not born in the US.
|Jun-13-12|| ||SirRuthless: <JustAFish> No need to be obtuse.Americans are still debating whether Obama is a natural born citizen on the basis of a "questionable birth certificate", and his father not being a citizen. I used him as an example to illustrate the concept of inherited citizenship. His mother was AFAIK a citizen who met the criteria to pass on citizenship to her children simply by birthing them and he inherited citizenship on that basis.|
|Jun-13-12|| ||SirRuthless: And Obama would have inherited citizenship from his mother whether he was born on U.S. soil or not. The fact that he was born in Hawaii is immaterial to this discussion.|
|Jun-13-12|| ||Jim Bartle: It's not 100% certain, but yes, he probably would have inherited US citizenship through his mother no matter where he was born.|
However the President must be born in the United States, not just have American parents. That's why there's been so much controversy, though it's more than proven ten times over that he was born in Hawaii.
|Jun-14-12|| ||MORPHYEUS: It's a very good fake of a birth certificate. It's a business over there.|
|Jun-14-12|| ||Jim Bartle: Oh I see. The governor and secretary of state of Hawaii say the birth certificate is legit, but you know it's a fake. And those birth announcements appearing in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, all part of a conspiracy to make him eligible to run for president in 2008.|
|Jun-14-12|| ||MORPHYEUS: The governor and secretary were democrats, i bet.|
|Jun-15-12|| ||I play the Fred: <Americans are still debating whether Obama is a natural born citizen on the basis of a "questionable birth certificate", and his father not being a citizen.>|
Not many Americans, thankfully. And I'm speaking from the "Boot Barry" side of the aisle. The vast majority of Barry's opposition couldn't care less about this issue.
|Jun-15-12|| ||Jim Bartle: Morphyeus: "The governor and secretary were democrats, i bet."|
The governor was a Republican. Don't know about the Secretary of State.
|Jun-15-12|| ||MORPHYEUS: Does not matter. He's not going to be reelected.|
|Jun-15-12|| ||Jim Bartle: That wasn't the point. You are simply <wrong> that Obama was born in the United States. Only a few nuts still claim he wasn't.|
|Jun-15-12|| ||JimmyRockHound: Jim Bartle:
"... though it's more than proven ten times over that he was born in Hawaii.
Once should be enough.
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