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|Jun-15-12|| ||Phony Benoni: Well, I didn't get this one. I figured White's first move would be to finish castling.|
|Jun-15-12|| ||patzer2: I got it only because 29. Nf6+! seemed the quickest way to open up the position. Once I figured out this was the first move, the rest seemed easy.|
|Jun-15-12|| ||andyatchess: got the first move but not the rest - great puzzle and awesome finish!|
|Jun-15-12|| ||Blunderdome: I was going to try 30. Qh5 after starting the combination.|
|Jun-15-12|| ||M.Hassan: "Difficult" White to play 29.?
White is a pawn down.
Knight sitting on f6 gives a Royal fork!
29.Nf6+ gxf6 (forced or loose Queen)
Black realizes that next it will be check and mate on g7, hence moves the King:
This puzzle was so straightforward that when I solved it, I had doubts that it is a Friday puzzle and I dared and looked at the actual game and saw a shadow of my solution!. So,IMO, "difficult" category should not be applied and I am sure many kibitzers agree with me.
|Jun-15-12|| ||NewLine: <Phony Benoni> It could be useful to have a rule for "un-castling", wouldn't it?|
|Jun-15-12|| ||gawain: My try was 29 Rxh7 first and then 30 Nf6+ after Black captures with 29 ...Kxh7. |
I see why the actual order of moves is best, but does the other order also win?
|Jun-15-12|| ||Infohunter: The move 29.Nf6+ practically jumps out at you when you look at this position. The rest flowed from that.|
|Jun-15-12|| ||NewLine: If I had to play the position as white it would probably go down like this: |
29.Nf6+ gxf6 30.gxf6 Kh8 And then:
31.<Qh5?> Rg8+ 32.Kf1 Qd3+ 33.Ke1 Qxe4+
34.Kd1 Rad8+ 35.Kc1 Qxf4+ 36.Kb2 Rd2+
37.Kb3 Nd4+ 38.cxd4 Rd3+ 39.Kc4 Qxd4+
40.Kb5 Rb3+ 41.Kc6 Rc8+ 42.Kb7 Qd7+ 43.Ka6 Ra8#
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And I would have been traumatized for life...
So I'm so glad I didn't.
|Jun-15-12|| ||Tiggler: 29.xf6+ gxf6 30.gxf6 After this black is helpless. There are several possible lines of attack and attempted defence, all leading to mate on about move 35. For example:|
(30...e7 31.xh7 f8
(32.h8+ xh8 33.h5 g6 34.h6 d2 35.g7#)
(32...d2 33.h8+ xh8 34.h6 e2 35.g7#))
32.h8+ g8 33.h5 any 34.h6 any 35.g7#)
31.xh7+ xh7 32.h5+ g8 33.h6 any 34.g7#
|Jun-15-12|| ||mig55: I think it does, gawain.|
|Jun-15-12|| ||sevenseaman: It would be quite a story for White to tell if the g7 P were to vamoose.|
Daydreaming is a good habit. Let us see what happens in spite of the g7 P. Even the sac looks obvious.
29. Nf6+ (f6 is a very popular destination these days)
29...gxf6 30. gxf6 and <this P is a thorn in Black's flesh>.
White Q and R look menacing and Black has to be in a quandary for the next move. White plans to be merciless.
30...Kf8? 31. Rxh7 and White <will> have a story after all.
30...Kh8 31. Rxh7+ Kxh7 32. Qh5+ Kg8 33. Qg5+ and the story is splashed all over the media.
<CG> are doing an excellent job. The theme may be familiar to some but the two adversaries are unheard of (IMO).
|Jun-15-12|| ||sevenseaman: This week is going swimmingly!
How come <Tiggler> has such a long story. Must have pondered the imponderables!
|Jun-15-12|| ||xthred: <NewLine> Un-castling would be useful!|
|Jun-15-12|| ||paavoh: This wasn't Friday material, an easy-ish Wednesday perhaps?! Nf6+ is a must, and the "hard" part was to see the Rook sac.|
|Jun-15-12|| ||MarkFinan: This has to be the easiest "difficult", Iv'e ever seen!|
|Jun-15-12|| ||Tiggler: <sevenseaman: This week is going swimmingly! |
How come <Tiggler> has such a long story. Must have pondered the imponderables!>
I missed Black's best defense. Easy to go wrong as White in this one:
29.Nf6+ gxf6 30.gxf6 Qd2 31.Qg4+ Kf8 32.Rxh7 Ke8 33.Qg8+ Kd7 34.Qxf7+ Ne7 36.Qxe7 Kc6 (Kc8) 35.Qc7#
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|Jun-15-12|| ||rilkefan: I got the game line immediately, then wondered if Rxh7 first was better, then wondered if Rh6 did anything. I felt a little uneasy about Qd1 or Qd2, but didn't check deeper, as it's been a rough day.|
|Jun-15-12|| ||Mendrys: I got all the way up to the rook sac and for some reason went with the very slow but also winning 33. Kg2 with plans to bring the rook to the h file. |
Some credit for seeing that black can't do much but try to give up a lot of material but fail for not seeing the easier and should be obvious game continuation.
|Jun-15-12|| ||Jamboree: Here's the line I preferred -- unique in the history of chess, because it ends up with QUADRUPLED pawns!!|
29. Nf6+ gxf6
30. Rxh7 Kxh7
31. Qh5+ Kg8
32. gxf6 Qd1+!
33. Rxd1 Rxd1+
34. Kg2! Ne7
35. Qh6 Nf5
36. exf5!! (quadrupling the pawns) and mate in two.
Never seen that before!
Sure, it may not be "best" play for both sides, but it's certainly "most memorable."
|Jun-15-12|| ||sevenseaman: <Tiggler>! You're astonishing! I missed it too. Thankfully it turns out to be only a storm in teacup. |
Nonetheless, a miss is a miss. I better not pat myself on the back too quickly.
|Jun-15-12|| ||Swedish Logician: the crucial thing to note was that the Q on d7 blocks the escape of the King; after that it was easy to see the forcing scarifices ..|
|Jun-15-12|| ||FSR: 29.Nf6+ gxf6 30.gxf6 toasts Black.|
|Jun-15-12|| ||Tiggler: <sevenseaman: <Tiggler>! You're astonishing! I missed it too. Thankfully it turns out to be only a storm in teacup.
Nonetheless, a miss is a miss. I better not pat myself on the back too quickly.>|
Thank you. I don't think this puzzle is as easy as some previous posters thought. See <NewLine>'s contribution which shows that the R sac, after the K goes to h8 is absolutely necessary. So, if one didn't see the two critical lines after 30... Kh8 or after 30... Qd2, then I don't think a solution could be claimed. I saw the first, but not the second until after moving the pieces and making mistakes. eg 31 Qh5 won't do, because after 30... Qd2 the K will escape unless both Q and R get to the 7th rank in time.
|Jun-15-12|| ||FSR: Weird that White, over 200 points higher rated, would allow 2...dxe4=.|
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