Luke McShane vs Vladimir Kramnik (2012) "Ain't That a Shane"

Luke McShane vs Vladimir Kramnik
"Ain't That a Shane" (game of the day Nov-21-12)
Tal Memorial (2012) · Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. Rio Gambit Accepted (C67) · 1-0

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Jun-16-12		moronovich: <Strongest Force: A minority attack at some time would be interesting.> You mean h4-5-6-7-touchdown !?

Jun-16-12		Pedro Fernandez: 45.h4

Jun-16-12		haydn20: Did White lose a tempo with 43. Qg6+ instead of 43. Qxf5 directly?

Jun-16-12		rczcarvalho: Both are going to win. Half point each one rs rs.

Jun-16-12		Calli: Kramnik may getting himself in trouble here

Jun-16-12		HeMateMe: Kramnik can play R-c1 at anytime here and draw. His live pawns on the Q-side will be just as dangerous as white's h pawn.

Jun-16-12		Eyal: <Did White lose a tempo with 43. Qg6+ instead of 43. Qxf5 directly?> Depends really on the question of whether the black king stands better on d6 or c7, which is not so easy to determine.

Jun-16-12		bwarnock: Here's a position to consider: click for larger view (which occurs after 45... e4 46. f4+ b7 47. h4 e2 48. b1+ b5 49. xb5+ cxb5 50. f7+ c6 51. h5 b4 52. h6 b3 53. h7 b2 54. h8 b1+ 55. h2) which would be fun but White appears to be winning/better (for instance 55...b7?? 56. h6+ wins a queen or 55... b6 56.e6+ followed by 57 xd5+ <>

Jun-16-12		Marmot PFL: <Eyal> The only thing i like about e4 is the chance to play e3 and open white's king. For that to work he needs the pieces.

Jun-16-12		Pedro Fernandez: This move was really strong for black!

Jun-16-12		Ulhumbrus: 45..Rc1?? now invites the fork 46 Qf4+

Jun-16-12		Eyal: <Kramnik can play R-c1 at anytime here and draw.> With the king on c7 it just loses on the spot to Qf4+; but in any case, a rook exchange doesn't lead automatically to a draw.

Jun-16-12		OBIT: Kramnik's 45...Rc3, intending ...Rf3 looks good. This is heading for a hair-raising finish!

Jun-16-12		haydn20: <HeMateMe> 45. ...Rc1?? 46. Qf4+ wins the R.

Jun-16-12		Archswindler: <HeMateMe: Kramnik can play R-c1 at anytime here and draw.> Not immediately, because of Qf4+

Jun-16-12		Peligroso Patzer: So typical of Kramnik to persist in playing on when the only reasonable choice is to agree the draw. It's no wonder that for years his detractors have called him Cast-all-caution-to-the-winds-nik (or something like that) ...

Jun-16-12		Pedro Fernandez: I agree with you Peligroso.

Jun-16-12		Eyal: 46.Qe5+! restrains Black's e-pawn.

Jun-16-12		HeMateMe: I like what Kramnik is doing here. With pieces on the board he can get better King position. If it comes down to a R + p endgame, he can win on the Queenside. Probably still drawn, but I like that fact that the players are having this debate.

Jun-16-12		Eyal: According to the engines, 48.Qe7+ followed by 49.h6 should give White what seems like a winning advantage.

Jun-16-12		Calli: Qe7+ and h6 looks very good for White

Jun-16-12		haydn20: <Eyal> and the R is immobilized and the K is shut off from the K-side.

Jun-16-12		chancho: <In the face of an obstacle which is impossible to overcome, stubbornness is stupid.> <~Simone de Beauvoir>

Jun-16-12		AuN1: kramnik is dead in the water. did he decline a draw offer earlier?

Jun-16-12		haydn20: 47...Rc2 with a potential Rxf7 may be marginally better.

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