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Anatoly Karpov vs Yasser Seirawan
Karpov-Seirawan Match (2012)  ·  Slav Defense: Quiet Variation. Pin Defense (D12)  ·  0-1
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Jun-18-12  salamunalaik: karpov forfeited the time??
Jun-22-12  Everett: Does Karpov have an answer for ..Ne2 and ..Qd1? I don't see an immediate save here. This is a nice mating net fashioned by Yasser.
Jun-22-12  RookFile: I suspect it was a loss on time. You could always try 40. Qg7 - can only lose the game once, it must be worth a try.
Jun-22-12  Jason Frost: Don't think there's anything here to suggest it was a loss on time. Karpov is simply getting mated and doesn't even have any intermediate checks ... other than some f3+, but then he likely gets mated a few moves later anyway.
Jun-22-12  RookFile: And how does the simple mate happen after 40. Qg7?
Jun-22-12
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  OhioChessFan: 40. Qh8 strikes me as better with the option of Qa8+
Jun-22-12
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  OhioChessFan: I tried 40. Qg7 also.
40. Qg7 Ne2+ 41. Kg2 Qd1 42. f3+ Kxe3 43. Qe5+ Kd3 44. Qd6+ Nd4 45. Qxa6+ Ke3 46. Qf1 Qxf1+ 47. Kxf1 Kxf3

and I don't see how White can win this. The Knight has to chase down the Queenside Pawns and the King is kept imprisoned on the first rank in opposition. Maybe Black needs to avoid exchanging Queens but I don't see much room for improvement in the line I tried.


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Jun-22-12
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  Shams: Many Queen moves are winning for White, per Shredder, but <OCF>'s suggestion is the top choice: 40.Qh8 [+2.73 15/15]
Jun-22-12
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  OhioChessFan: I wasn't playing for a win there. I think the 2.73 may be overly optimistic.
Jun-22-12
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  Shams: Why not play for a win? White is two farmers to the good.
Jun-22-12
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  HeMateMe: farmers?
Jun-22-12
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  Shams: That's right. Also, White's bishop controls the dark hectares.
Jun-22-12
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  Shams: Portrait of Black's King and Queen, in happier times: http://bit.ly/MpIdJK
Jun-22-12
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  Shams: Now as I was young and easy under the apple boughs
About the lilting house and happy as the grass was green, The night above the dingle starry,
Time let me hail and climb
Golden in the heydays of his eyes...
Jun-22-12  Tessie Tura: You have to hear Thomas read it to get the full flavor of the verse.
Jun-22-12  Jason Frost: Wow, focused on the logical looking 40. Qg7 and completely missed the winning queen moves.
Jun-22-12  yiotta: I should start a collection based on good kibitzing.
Jun-23-12  rilkefan: ...though I sang in my chains like the sea.

Wonderful, wonderful poem.

Jun-24-12  Everett: Well, shows you how much I can see. A cursory glance and, you know, not being good, does it to me every time.

<rilkefan> is there a particular collection of Rilke which you find to be well-done?

Jun-24-12  rilkefan: <Everett>: I suggest Edward Snow's translations, if you're not reading the originals. I like most of the varied periods of Rilke's work, but for me by far the best is the New Poems, and esp. the first part. You could just get a used copy (his updated versions are in my view not as good) of http://www.amazon.com/Poems-1907-Ra... and skip anything with a Christian title; there's also a Snow _New Poems_ which is something of a selection. These poems are clear and concentrated and powerful. If you like work that's more vatic or otherwise in the style of the Thomas above then you might check out the Duino Elegies, his most famous work. The Book of Images is full of poems I memorized when I was younger - if you want more of a fin de siècle romantic approach that would be a place to start.

You could look on the web for say "Spanish Dancer" or "The Panther" or "Archaic Torso of Apollo" or "The Lute" or "The Rose Interior" from _The New Poems_, or the First Elegy, or "Autumn Day" or "Autumn" from _Images_, and get a sense of what works for you.

Jun-25-12  Everett: <rilkefan> thank you very much for your insight and direction!
Jun-26-12  rilkefan: No problem. Hope you like RMR. Let me know how it goes.

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