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Jun-18-12
 | | FSR: Now 22.Bc4 would follow <Eyal>'s analysis. |
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Jun-18-12
 | | Eyal: Now that the knight has been forced out of d7, it's time for Bc4. An immediate 20.Bc4 isn't good for White because of 20...b5 21.Bb3
(21.Bd5 Nb6) 21...Nc5 (22.Bd5? b4 with big advantage to Black, e.g. 23.Ng5 Be6 24.Bxe6 fxe6 25.Ne2 Nd3). |
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| Jun-18-12 | | Resignation Trap: 22 Bc4 looks good, but was 22 Nd5 even better? |
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Jun-18-12
| | FSR: 22...Bxg5!? 23.Qxg5 Be6. |
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Jun-18-12
 | | Ulhumbrus: If Naiditsch said that he had "no idea" why Aronian played 15 Be2 we can observe one of the consequences following the move: Caruana fell behind further in development after responding to it by 15...e6 and if this was one of the aims of the move this suggests we may give a double exclamation mark to it. |
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Jun-18-12
| | FSR: Wow. I certainly didn't expect ...Kg7. Can it be any good? |
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Jun-18-12
| | Eyal: <22 Bc4 looks good, but was 22 Nd5 even better?> Apparently not - 22...Rxd5! 23.Rxd5 Be6 followed by Qa4 if the rook retreats gives Black excellent counterplay. Otherwise, he would indeed be in great trouble. |
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Jun-18-12
 | | Strongest Force: Fab in trouble? |
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Jun-18-12
| | Ulhumbrus: 23 Nd5 threatens 24 Nc7, 24 Nxb6 and 24 Nxf6 |
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Jun-18-12
| | Eyal: 23.Nd5 again doesn't work, this time because of 23...Qxe4+! |
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Jun-18-12
| | FSR: <Ulhumbrus> Yes. 23.Nd5 is strong like bull. Aronian is rolling Caruana like a joint. |
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| Jun-18-12 | | 310metaltrader: aronian looks old actually |
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Jun-18-12
| | FSR: <Eyal> 23.Nd5 Qxe4+ 24.Kh1 (yawn). |
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Jun-18-12
| | Eyal: With 22...Kg7 Black is threatening h6 and the engines are rooting for 23.Qg3, but 23.e5 might look more attractive to the human eye. |
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Jun-18-12
 | | brankat: So then, which is it with <23. Nd5>: Good, or it doesn't work? :-) |
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Jun-18-12
| | Eyal: <FSR: <Eyal> 23.Nd5 Qxe4+ 24.Kh1 (yawn)> Assuming you mean 24.Ka1, Black is winning after 24...Bxb2+! 25.Kxb2 Qxc4. |
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Jun-18-12
| | FSR: <Eyal> Hmm, you could be right. |
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Jun-18-12
| | Eyal: And 23.Nd5 Qxe4+ 24.Nxe4 Bxh4 25.Nxb6 loses to 25...Bf5 and Black wins material (e.g. 26.Bd3 Rxd3). |
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Jun-18-12
 | | hoodrobin: <310metaltrader: aronian looks old actually> And Caruana very young! |
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Jun-18-12
| | FSR: <Eyal> Yes, I deleted that comment of mine after seeing ...Bf5! Black's position has more resources than I'd thought. |
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Jun-18-12
 | | whiteshark: <FSR: I suppose A's idea is 19...Bxc3 20.Qxc3 Qxe4+ 21.Bd3 Qxf4 22.Bc4 and 23.Rhf1.> We should definitely keep this line in mind for a post-mortem analysis. It would also interesting to hear both players about this line. |
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Jun-18-12
 | | Marmot PFL: Black may as well play 23...Bxg5 since after e5 that piece has no future anyway. Then 24 Qxg5 f6 25 Qg3 Rxd1+ 26 Rxd1 b5 27 Bb3 28 Be6 and black is alive for now. |
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Jun-18-12
 | | ahmadov: <hoodrobin: <310metaltrader: aronian looks old actually> And Caruana very young!> Never forget some old chess players, like Korchnoi and Karpov, still playing some good chess even today. Also, compared to the world chess champion these are not old at all... |
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Jun-18-12
| | Marmot PFL: 27...Be6 in my last comment but Aronian recaptured with the f-pawn anyway. |
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Jun-18-12
| | Ulhumbrus: On 23 Nd5 Qxe4+ 24 Nxe4 Bxh4 in a number of variations white lacks a tempo which could otherwise increase his advantage |
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