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Arkadij Naiditsch vs Georg Meier
Dortmund Sparkassen (2012), Dortmund GER, rd 2, Jul-14
English Opening: Symmetrical Variation. Hedgehog Defense (A30)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Jul-14-12
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  Peligroso Patzer: Considering the position after <40. ... Rd6>, despite Black's extra pawn it's hard to believe there are realistic practical chances to play for a full point with White having the more active Rook.
Jul-14-12
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  cormier: time may draw for white
Jul-14-12
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  cormier: useless if not better on the clock
Jul-14-12
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  cormier: i think they will draw now ...
Jul-14-12  JoergWalter: around move 16 I was sure there won't be an endgame - terribly wrong I was. now the game won't end?
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  cormier: ...Re2+
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  cormier: ...Kx
Jul-14-12
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  eternaloptimist: <cormier> I agree w/ u. I think it will be a draw also. The ending isn't complicated & both of them have plenty of time. Meier has gotten off to a good start in this tournament.
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  eternaloptimist: Indeed it's a draw. Thx CG!
Jul-14-12  JohnBoy: <Joerg> - I lived in D'land for a while and pronounced Joerg as "yurg", and Georg as "gay-org". Are these regional variations?
Jul-14-12
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  cormier: black didn't knew how to win a rook ending .... white knew how to play fairly well in defence and drawed .....
Jul-14-12  karnak64: Is Black's 53rd correct?
Jul-14-12  avidfan: 53...Ke5 since it is a draw by 3-fold repetition of position
Jul-14-12  JoergWalter: <johnboy> actually Joerg is the short form of Georg (Georg = the man from the countryside). when it comes to pronouncing - I have heard everything from York, Yerk, Yuch etc. Gay-org is close however, in Georg the "gay" is short and sharp.
Jul-14-12  master of defence: Why white didnīt played 54.Kxf3?
Jul-14-12  310metaltrader: blacks 53 move must be the referee moving the piece to the center after the draw.
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  Peligroso Patzer: <karnak64: Is Black's 53rd correct?>

<ltrader: blacks 53 move must be the referee moving the piece to the center after the draw.>

Yes, thatís what I assumed (since <53. Ö Ke5??>, if actually played, would have been totally losing). That has to be the stupidest %$#&# convention imaginable, but it is still commonly used, despite the widespread confusion it causes to on-line viewers.

I really donít even know what various placements are used to signify which results, and I guess I would appreciate being enlightened by anyone who knows (since apparently that stupid convention will continue to be used). Can anyone explain the code? Apparently, putting the Black King on e5 signifies a draw, is that correct, for starters?

BTW, does anyone here on-line at CG.com think the convention is a good one, and, if so, why?

Jul-14-12  karnak64: Phew. So I'm not on drugs. I wasn't sure.
Jul-14-12  JoergWalter: <karnak64> but you are not the guy I played almost everyday in 1994 at the Radisson in Paramus? Working at the Disney store in the mall across the street??
Jul-14-12
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  perfidious: < JoergWalter: <karnak64> but you are not the guy I played almost everyday in 1994 at the Radisson in Paramus? Working at the Disney store in the mall across the street?? >

I've got one question: who the %$)! voluntarily goes to Paramus, NJ???

Jul-14-12  JoergWalter: <perfidious> I was young and needed the money.
Jul-14-12
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  perfidious: You could have crossed the Hudson, you know!
Jul-14-12  JoergWalter: why didn't you tell me this earlier?
Jul-14-12  karnak64: Not guilty, <JoergWalter> -- in '94 I was living in Chicago.
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