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Jul-17-12
 | | Ulhumbrus: <visayanbraindoctor: Lasker was right.> Lasker considered that superior force ( or perhaps effectiveness) would prevail and that this principle was more fundamental than that of development alone. Thus White has a lead in development but it is Black's men which are placed to greater effect. Why? Perhaps partly because White's bishops on the e file turn out to be targets instead of weapons. |
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| Jul-17-12 | | Riverbeast: <The ironic thing about this superb game is that Kramnik is playing the opening he refuted!> Maybe the true irony is that the 'refuter' refuted the idea that the KID had been refuted If the biggest KID slayer is playing the KID and winning with it, then he must think the defense is still viable And it's the ability to crush White like this, that makes true KID devotees unable to quit this opening ;-) |
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| Jul-17-12 | | Mr. Bojangles: <J Gustafsson vs Kramnik, 2012
Riverbeast: <The ironic thing about this superb game is that Kramnik is playing the opening he refuted!> Maybe the true irony is that the 'refuter' refuted the idea that the KID had been refuted If the biggest KID slayer is playing the KID ...> Radjabov has shown many times that KID was never refuted. Kasparov was just not up to the task. |
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Jul-18-12
 | | FSR: This is one of the most amazing games I've ever seen. Half of Black's moves look like they were played by a madman. |
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Jul-18-12
 | | tarek1: <This is one of the most amazing games I've ever seen. Half of Black's moves look like they were played by a madman.>
Or by a magician, perhaps ?
Makes me think of a famous magician called HOUDINI. |
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Jul-18-12
| | tarek1: He may even have helped Black to prepare for this game. |
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Jul-18-12
 | | visayanbraindoctor: <FSR: This is one of the most amazing games I've ever seen. Half of Black's moves look like they were played by a madman.> Same opinion. In the future it could well be regarded as the classic Black win in the 'open' KID set-up. <tarek1: Makes me think of a famous magician called HOUDINI.> Kramnik readily announces that he prepared a5 with the help of a computer. I wonder when did his preparation stop and his over-the-board play begin? That Kramnik can play such brillancies over-the-board is quite possible as evidenced by the fact that he has played similar such games in the past. Two examples: the incredible
M Brodsky vs Kramnik, 1991
which seems to me to be the classic Black Pelikan win and the astonishing
Gelfand vs Kramnik, 1996 |
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| Jul-18-12 | | Lovuschka: 
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Is Black to move lost? Not if Kramnik is Black: See from move 17. 
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And what is the easiest way to win for Black now? See move 24. Wonderful play by the former world champion! |
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| Jul-18-12 | | WiseWizard: Bobby Fischer. |
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| Jul-23-12 | | tivrfoa: I think anyone that was/is WC can be considered a genius, but the real genius here are the software developers that built the engine that Kramnik used to prepare for this game. (13. ... a5). Chess is a lot about memory. xD |
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Jan-18-13
 | | Phony Benoni: I'm surprised this game has so much kibitzing. You don't need to discuss much. |
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Jan-18-13
 | | Infohunter: Just drop off the key, Lee... |
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Jan-18-13
 | | Abdel Irada: <Infohunter: Just drop off the key, Lee...> And set yourself free. |
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Jan-18-13
| | Abdel Irada: To me, as one who's often found himself on the white side of the KID, White's position looks fatally compromised by move 10, thanks to the hanging bishop on e3, which will be a very useful target for many moves to come and permit Black the (typically equalizing) break 10. ...d5 as seen here. I'm not an expert in the Gligoric-Taimanov, and I imagine this is all theory, but the availability of such active counterplay suggests to me that White may soon be looking for an improvement. |
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Jan-18-13
 | | Check It Out: <FSR: This is one of the most amazing games I've ever seen. Half of Black's moves look like they were played by a madman.> Yes. Moves 16-18 in particular left me flabbergasted. |
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Jan-18-13
| | Abdel Irada: <Check It Out: <FSR: This is one of the most amazing games I've ever seen. Half of Black's moves look like they were played by a madman.> Yes. Moves 16-18 in particular left me flabbergasted.> Perhaps necessity is the mother of madmen's invention, too. |
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Jan-18-13
 | | Garech: Great game from Vlad; nice tactics at the end. It's a real shame he's not at Tata this year. -Garech |
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Jan-18-13
 | | lost in space: This is how I like to see Kramnik play! |
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| Jan-18-13 | | mrbasso: Not every opponent is so cooperative... |
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Jan-18-13
 | | kevin86: That a-pawn is more lethal than a cobra with the flu. |
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| Jan-18-13 | | pablo333: 13... a5 cannot possibly be sound (even when taking into account white's weakened queenside). In explaining the one sided nature of this game, it is simply the case that Kramnik is a far stronger player than Gustafsson. The King's Indian Defense is wholly unsound at an elite G.M. level (2780+): would Kramnik - or Radjabov for that matter - have chanced their respective arm with the K.I.D. in a match for the world championship against Anand or Topalov? I doubt it. |
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Jan-18-13
 | | Sneaky: <Garech: The ironic thing about this superb game is that Kramnik is playing the opening he refuted!> That makes perfect sense to me. I spent a summer studying an archaic Sicilian (the Lowenthal variation) and finally concluded that when you sweep away all the complications, it's unsound. So did I then discard it? Heck no--now I always play it ALL the time. Because to really understand something deeply, you have to understand why it's wrong--and I doubt my opponents have that depth of understanding. |
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Jan-18-13
 | | thegoodanarchist: <Phony Benoni: I'm surprised this game has so much kibitzing. You don't need to discuss much.> Too late! I slipped out the back, Jack. |
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Jan-18-13
 | | perfidious: But I'll repeat myself at the risk of being crude
There must be fifty ways to love your lever..... |
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| Jan-22-13 | | Everett: ... Make a new plan, Vlad!
<The King's Indian Defense is wholly unsound at an elite G.M. level (2780+)> Considering that one of the handful of GMs up here is Radjabov (who has scored draws vs none other than Kramnik with it), your statement seems unattached to reality. |
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