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|Aug-11-12|| ||Eyal: Well, Alekseev is the first to deviate from the Andriasian vs Asrian game, where Be2 was played instead of Nd5.|
|Aug-11-12|| ||Strongest Force: Will we see q-side p-storm?|
|Aug-11-12|| ||Marmot PFL: a5, b5 plan seems the most active for black.|
|Aug-11-12|| ||Strongest Force: Black's last 2 moves (Ba5 & a6) were BS.|
|Aug-11-12|| ||Eyal: So the somewhat strange-looking 19...a6 was preparation for Bc6 (otherwise White traps the black queen with b4; now it has the a7 square).|
|Aug-11-12|| ||Strongest Force: Did these two get enough sleep last night? Because it seems they are trying to put us all to sleep now|
|Aug-11-12|| ||waustad: Svidler seems to have been ambushed.|
|Aug-11-12|| ||talisman: good morning.....who's winning?|
|Aug-11-12|| ||Pedro Fernandez: < talisman: good morning.....who's winning? > It seems a draw Talisman.|
|Aug-11-12|| ||talisman: thanks <Pedro>.....queens come off now?|
|Aug-11-12|| ||Pedro Fernandez: <Eyal: <Svidler seems to have been ambushed.> Yeah, his position aganist Vitiugov looks like a textbook example of "kids, that's what happens if you don't castle"; after 18 moves, it looks like only a miracle can save him. His play in this whole tournament is really not impressive. > Hay Eyal, where I can look that game, THX!|
|Aug-11-12|| ||Eyal: All the games are broadcast live at http://superfinal2012.live.whychess...|
|Aug-11-12|| ||talisman: thanks <Eyal> for that link.|
|Aug-11-12|| ||Eyal: Maybe I spoke too soon about the Svidler-Vitiugov game, btw... Looks like Vitiugov failed to find a couple of strong continuations (especailly 21...Qe7), and anyway both are in serious time trouble, so Svidler might yet wiggle his way out of this.|
|Aug-11-12|| ||MrSpock: Swidler again has serious troubles!|
|Aug-11-12|| ||OBIT: Houdini going crazy in the Svidler/Vitiugov game, from -23 back to even, back to -19, back to even... just a brutal time scramble, and they are still 10 moves from the time control.|
|Aug-11-12|| ||Marmot PFL: Black plays well for a 15 year old.|
|Aug-11-12|| ||MrSpock: Svidler/Vitiugov: draw in a lost position!|
|Aug-11-12|| ||OBIT: Oh, man... Svidler and Vitiugov just agreed to a draw.|
|Aug-11-12|| ||Eyal: <Black plays well for a 15 year old.> Yeah, Dubov isn't going to win this championship, but considering it's the first time he's playing in a tournament of such caliber he's holding his own well overall with -1, especially when compared with the other youngster (but more experienced) Sjugirov, with his -4.|
|Aug-11-12|| ||OBIT: Well, if all five games end in draws, including the premature draw in Svidler/Vitiugov, shall we conclude the main reason this tournament has had so many draws is that Russians are wusses? |
I am reminded of how McShane, despite being scary short of time against Aronian, kept playing for the win - and did win.
|Aug-11-12|| ||Eyal: Svidler-Vitiugov didn't end in a draw because Vitiugov was "afraid" of time trouble; he just didn't manage to find the win in time trouble. The final position is drawn due to threefold repetition.|
|Aug-11-12|| ||tpstar: Great fighting draw.|
|Aug-11-12|| ||Pedro Fernandez: Dear <Eyal>, it should be interesting for all of us if you write a concrete analysis on Svidler-Vitiugov game with some comments. Thanks in advance. I think it is more convenient you write this in that kibitz game once CG publishes it.|
|Aug-11-12|| ||Ulhumbrus: 11...Rc8? may be a losing mistake if we assume that Black's king is not as safe in the centre or on the King side as White's King is safe on the queen side. It is true that on 12 Bc4 Qc5! forks White's queen on d4 and White's bishop on c4.|
However 12 f5? may be the wrong way to try to take advantage of the move 11...Rc8. White would like Black to play ...e6 so that the f5 pawn attacks a target and White gains prospects of attack on the f file. However it turns out that Black is able to avoid the move ...e7-e6 and to develop his king's bishop by ...h5 and ...Bh6 and not only that but to get his king into safety on g7 as well.
If White's can't develop his king's bishop on c4, an alternative to developing white's king's bishop on c4 is to develop White's king's bishop on e2 instead, as Fischer did in the game Fischer vs Spassky, 1972 although in a different position.
An alternative to 12 Bc4 is 12 Qd2 defending the c2 pawn and unpinning the knight on c3 with the idea of the knight manoeuvre Nc3-d5-e3-f5.
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