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Magnus Carlsen vs Levon Aronian
Bilbao Masters (2012)  ·  Spanish Game: Berlin Defense (C65)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Sep-28-12  zev22407: 27)... Rook takes bishop on f4 and black wins
Sep-28-12  fiftytwo: 27. ... would make a good Thursday puzzle.
Sep-28-12
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  whiteshark: gangnam style
Sep-28-12  amaurobius: <zev22407> It has to be the f8 rook that captures on f4. SuperGMs are human too! They'll both want to forget this game.
Sep-28-12
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  notyetagm: Carlsen vs Aronian, 2012

<varishnakov: Magnus blundered a piece, but Aronian decided not to collect it.>

Wow, when was the last time you saw Carlsen blunder like this?


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27 Be3-f4??


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(variation)
27 ... Rf8xBf4!


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Sep-28-12
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  Gypsy: Cool, the missed variation is kind of pretty: <27...R8xf4! 28.gxf4 Nxf4 29.Rg1 Qxh2+ 30.Kxh2 Rh3#.>
Sep-28-12  Swapmeet: A shocking blunder by Carlsen. Even more shocking that Aronian missed it. Quite an embarrassing moment for the second and third highest rated players in history!
Sep-28-12  kia0708: pair of blunders of the month :-)
Sep-28-12  diceman: <notyetagm:
Wow, when was the last time you saw Carlsen blunder like this?>

The previous round.
(he hung a rook in the center of the board)

Sep-28-12  csmath: But in both cases it was not that easy to see. In case with Karjakin depends on whether one can see the "blocked" geometry of file while this case with Aronian depends on accurate calculation of attack.

Not too simple and I bet 99% of chessgames users would not see either without engine.

Sep-29-12  okba1: u see gays!thats why carlsen is 2847-its a bubble-over rated'hes maximum 2750-but he allways find those wins against the 2700 players because of thier blunders-we will not see him as the world champion -iam sure
Sep-29-12  okba1: even i would find this win with my 1900 rating points
Sep-29-12  Llera: Nobody has mentioned this variation:

After 27...R8xf4! 28.gxf4 Nxf4 Black stops the check 29. Ra8+ with 29...Bf8! because if 29...Rh7?? Black loses his Queen with 30.Ng5+

Sep-29-12
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  Eyal: <Nobody has mentioned this variation:

After 27...R8xf4! 28.gxf4 Nxf4 Black stops the check 29. Ra8+ with 29...Bf8! because if 29...Rh7?? Black loses his Queen with 30.Ng5+>

Aronian mentioned it in the interview after the game:-) Not sure if he was just pointing this out or whether it was part of his explanation why he missed 27...R8xf4 (he was talking about how he was trying to play quickly at this stage of the game due to time pressure and so "trusted" Carlsen's calculations too much).

Sep-29-12  csmath: <A shocking blunder by Carlsen. Even more shocking that Aronian missed it. Quite an embarrassing moment for the second and third highest rated players in history!>

Nothing shocking about that. The whole game was positional exchange with one tactical oversight by both. That tactical oversight has many variations and they are not so easy to calculate over the board (without engines) thus the oversight. I do not see anything else in this game so bad. As a matter of fact I think both played rather standard for their strength.

Sep-29-12  csmath: <so "trusted" Carlsen's calculations too much>

That is the benefit of having "authority." People starts to fear you are hiding ace in your sleeve even when you make crap move. I think this explains some of Tal's and Alekhine's wins. :-)

Sep-29-12  kia0708: But recently Caruana beat the crap out of the autorithy.

<That is the benefit of having "authority." People starts to fear you are hiding ace in your sleeve>

Oct-22-12  hillsong: is aronian so scared of playing carlsen that he would miss a winning move,aronian really disappointed me this sort of mistake is unacceptable at the elite level
Oct-22-12  solskytz: A striking blunder by Carlsen, followed by one from Lemon Aronian...

sorry - couldn't resist that one :-)

Aug-28-13  clement41: Black's reply to Bf4?? is easy to miss as after R8xf4 gf the try Ra8+ with the idea Ng5+ is refuted by ...Bf8. An easy to miss move because it is a backward move: not intuitive.
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