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Anatoly Karpov vs Sophie Milliet
Trophee Anatoly Karpov (2012)  ·  Benko Gambit: Accepted. Fully Accepted Variation (A58)  ·  1-0
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Nov-11-12  Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> I mean 17. Nxe5 Bxe5. But you probably got that. Anyway, sorry again. :-)
Nov-11-12  Ulhumbrus: <Cyphelium> An alternative to 17...Bxe5 is 17...dxe5 eg 18 Rd6 Nf4 19 Bxf4 exf4 20 Rxe6 f3. If after 17...dxe5 if White delays the invasion 18 Rd6, that allows Black time to play 18...Rad8.
Nov-12-12  Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> After 17.- dxe5 18. g3 Rad8 19. Be3, I don't see what compensation black has for the pawn. Also, Nc3-Na4 is coming for another one.
Nov-12-12  Ulhumbrus: <Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> After 17...dxe5 18. g3 Rad8 19. Be3, I don't see what compensation black has for the pawn. Also, Nc3-a4 is coming for another one.> Suppose we try a piece sacrifice: 19...Nf4 20 gxf4 exf4. If the white bishop now withdraws eg by 21 Bd2, 21...c4 clears the fourth rank for black's queen to swing over to the king side by the move ...Qh5
Nov-13-12  Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> So what is black's idea after the further 22. Nd5 Qc5 23. Nxf4? If 23.- Bh6, then 24. Be3 looks adequate.
Nov-14-12  Ulhumbrus: <Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> So what is black's idea after the further 22.Nd5 Qc5 23. Nxf4? If 23...Bh6, then 24. e3 looks adequate.> 22 Nd5 offers to return the piece by 22...exd5 because Black has still a pawn on e6. Meanwhile White's king side remains broken
Nov-15-12  Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> I am well aware that pawn is still on e6. The variation we are discussing is 13.- e6 14. dxe6 fxe6 15. Rd1 Nh5 16. Kg1 Ne5 17. Nxe5 dxe5 18. g3 Rad8 19. Be3 Nf4 20. gxf4 exf4 21. Bd2 c4 22. Nd5. If black plays 22.- exd5, white just takes the black queen with 23. Bxa5.
Nov-16-12  Ulhumbrus: <Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> I am well aware that pawn is still on e6. The variation we are discussing is 13.- e6 14. dxe6 fxe6 15. Rd1 Nh5 16. Kg1 Ne5 17. Nxe5 dxe5 18. g3 Rad8 19. Be3 Nf4 20. gxf4 exf4 21.Bd2 c4 22.Nd5. If black plays 22...exd5, white just takes the black queen with 23.Bxa5.> This suggests that on 21 Bd2 the move Nd5 has to be considered a threat. Then how about 21...Qc7 heading for e5 or e7
Nov-19-12  Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> 22. f3 and I don't see what black is aiming for. 22.- Qe7 23. Kh2 Qh4 24. Be1. On 22.- Qe5, white can use the same idea. Black has no attack and white is piece up.
Nov-20-12  Ulhumbrus: <Cyphelium> 22 f3 prevents the pawn advance ...f3, a move which Black would like to play, but it also invites the check ...Bd4+. Suppose Black tries the check. One way for White to lose is 22..Bd4+ 23 Kg2 Qe5 24 Be1 Qg5+ 25 Kh2 Qg1 mate
Nov-21-12  Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> But why 23. Kg2? Instead, 23. Kh2 Qe5 24. Be1 Qg5 25. Qg2 and black is still just a piece down with no compensation in sight.
Nov-21-12  Ulhumbrus: < Cyphelium > It looks as if following the move f3 Black has to avoid the defence Qc2-g2! After 19...Nf4 20 gxf4 exf4 21 Bd2 how about 21...f3. Then White can't play Qc2-g2. On 22 Nd5 Qa7 Black's queen heads for e7 and h4 while Black's bishop may go to e5 in reply to Kh2.
Nov-21-12  Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> I'll go for the pawn: 22. Na4

22.- Qc7 23. Qxc5 Qf7 24. Qg5 and black has no threats.

22.- Qb5 23. Nxc5 and if 23.- Rc8, then offering the exchange with 24. b4 Bxa1 25. Rxa1 looks almost winning for white.

Nov-22-12  Ulhumbrus: <Cyphelium> Then how about 22...Qa7 23 Nxc5 Qe7 heading for h4
Nov-23-12  Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> After 13.- e6 14. dxe6 fxe6 15. Rd1 Nh5 16. Kg1 Ne5 17. Nxe5 dxe5 18. g3 Rad8 19. Be3 Nf4 20. gxf4 exf4 21. Bd2 f3 22. Na4 Qa7 23. Nxc5 Qe7, it seems like white could reach a winning endgame by playing 24. Qc4 Rxd2 25. Qxe6+ Qxe6 26. Nxe6 Rxd1+ 27. Rxd1.
Nov-26-12  Ulhumbrus: <Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> After 13.- e6 14. dxe6 fxe6 15. Rd1 Nh5 16. Kg1 Ne5 17. Nxe5 dxe5 18. g3 Rad8 19. Be3 Nf4 20. gxf4 exf4 21. Bd2 f3 22. Na4 Qa7 23. Nxc5 Qe7, it seems like white could reach a winning endgame by playing 24. Qc4 Rxd2 25. Qxe6+ Qxe6 26. Nxe6 Rxd1+ 27. Rxd1.> In this line an alternative to 23...Qe7 is 23...Rxd2 at once so that 24 Rxd2 loses a tempo towards the capture Qxe6+ after 24...Qe7 25 Qc4 Qg5+.
Nov-26-12  Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> Maybe there is something else, but a sensible alternative on 23.- Rxd2 is 24. Qxd2 Qxc5 25. Qd6. If the queens come off, then the resulting endgame should be won for white, also without the the b2 pawn.
Nov-27-12  Ulhumbrus: <Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> Maybe there is something else, but a sensible alternative on 23...Rxd2 is 24.Qxd2 Qxc5 25.Qd6. If the queens come off, then the resulting endgame should be won for white, also without the the b2 pawn.> But do the queens in fact come off? Let us take it a little further: 25...Qg5+ 26 Qg3 Qh5 27 Qg4 Qe5 28 Rd7 Rf4 29 Qg3 Bf6 30 Rc1 and White threatens Rc8+

Perhaps 21...f3 is not the best way to prevent f3. Then how about 21...Bd4 pinning the f2 pawn

Nov-29-12  Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> Again, there might be something better, but after 13.- e6 14. dxe6 fxe6 15. Rd1 Nh5 16. Kg1 Ne5 17. Nxe5 dxe5 18. g3 Rad8 19. Be3 Nf4 20. gxf4 exf4 21. Bd2 Bd4, I think that 22. Ne2 Qa7 23. Nxd4 cxd4 24. Qb3 will be good enough. After, say, 24.- Qe7 25. Qf3 e5 the position will take some time to win, but white is a whole piece up and has two connected passed pawns.
Nov-29-12  Ulhumbrus: <Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> Again, there might be something better, but after 13.- e6 14. dxe6 fxe6 15.Rd1 h5 16. Kg1 Ne5 17. Nxe5 dxe5 18. g3 Rad8 19. Be3 Nf4 20. gxf4 exf4 21. Bd2 Bd4, I think that 22. Ne2 Qa7 23. Nxd4 cxd4 24. Qb3 will be good enough. After, say, 24...Qe7 25. Qf3 e5 the position will take some time to win, but white is a whole piece up and has two connected passed pawns.> After 22 Ne2 suppose Black invests some more in the venture by 22...Bxf2+ 23 Kxf2 Qa7 threatening ...c4+ and also to head for the square h4 via e7 eg 24 Qc4 Qe7
Nov-30-12  Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> 25. Ng1 and if white can play Nf3 next, I think black is just two pieces down. 25.- c4+ 26. Kg2 f3+ 27. Nxf3 Rd3 28. Rf1 and black is lost.
Dec-05-12  Ulhumbrus: <Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> 25.Ng1 and if white can play f3 next, I think black is just two pieces down. 25...c4+ 26. Kg2 f3+ 27. Nxf3 Rd3 28. Rf1 and black is lost.> In this sequence one alternative to 27...Rd3 is to invest some more by 27...Rxf3 28 Kxf3 Rd3+ with the idea of black's qurrn aiming for g3. Another alternative is 25...Qg7 ( instead of 25...f3+) 26 Nf3 g5 with ...g4 to follow
Dec-06-12  Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> On 27.- Rxf3 28. Kxf3 Rd3+ 29. Ke2, I think there isn't anything black can do to stop, say, 30. Rf1 and 31. Kd1. Then white is a rook and a piece up. He can play a2-a4-a5 etc. Black is lost.

On 26.- Qg7, white can play 27. Bc3 Qg6 28. Rxd8 Rxd8 29. Rd1. Now 29.- Rxd1 30. Qxd1 will mean that the queen will infiltrate, while 29.- Rf8 30. Rd7 Rf7 31. Rd8+ Rf8 32. Rxf8+ Kxf8 33. Qd1 is similar. Black is lost here as well.

Jan-01-13  Ulhumbrus: <Cyphelium> Perhaps Black had better look earlier for an alternative. How about this one: 13...e6 14 de fe 15 Rfd1 c4 16 Kh2 d5
Feb-04-13  Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> After 13.- e6 14. dxe6 fxe6 15. Rd1 c4 16. Kg1 d5, white could play 17. exd5 exd5 18. Be3 followed by, say, 19. Bd4. Black's position might be kind of ok, but her centre appears static and she would be a pawn down for no obvious compensation.
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