|Nov-22-12|| ||Conrad93: This is my first first post. Delightful!|
|Nov-22-12|| ||Conrad93: Having your f7 pawn removed is a major disadvantage. Just shows you how much stronger The Turk was.|
|Nov-22-12|| ||The Last Straw: It's Thanksgiving!|
|Nov-22-12|| ||Abdel Irada: Strickland (whoever he was) gets off to a slow start, then miscalculates, then falls into a seesaw checking pattern that eliminates his odds with interest, and from there things begin to go seriously downhill.|
As for the odds constituting a "major disadvantage": yes and no. If White doesn't play accurately, the open f-file can even become useful for a counterattack.
|Nov-22-12|| ||Conrad93: No, missing an f7 pawn is a majaor disadvantage.
It provides extra support to g7. It thereby weakens the kingside and allows an easier kingside attack.
|Nov-22-12|| ||Conrad93: 2.c3? gives away the advantage. 2.d4 would have certainly lead to a winning game for white.|
|Nov-22-12|| ||Abdel Irada: Fine, you go off and salute Major Disadvantage, and I'll carry on without you.|
|Nov-22-12|| ||Conrad93: Another blunder: 6.Nd2?
Why in the world would you block in your most powerful bishop when 6.Nc3 does the same job.
|Nov-22-12|| ||Conrad93: It's like white was playing to lose.|
|Nov-22-12|| ||sofouuk: am i the only one shaking my head at the black being described as 'the turk (automaton)', especially when the actual name of the black player is carefully given in the annotations? i mean, rather than 'the turk (pseudo-automaton)', or 'the turk (jacques francois mouret)'?|
well fine, call me mr picky-picky, but what, are we supposed to still believe in santa as well?
|Nov-22-12|| ||Abdel Irada: <sofouuk: ...well fine, call me mr picky-picky, but what, are we supposed to still believe in santa as well?>|
Not today. Today we're to genuflect to the Holy Turkey.
Santa is *next* month. (Which, in a token of mercantile desperation, begins on Friday and ends on 24 December.)
|Nov-22-12|| ||Gottschalk: By this time Johann Baptist Allgaier was The Turk operator. Another famous operator came soon after Schlumberger.|
|Nov-22-12|| ||FSR: <sofouuk: ... well fine, call me mr picky-picky, but what, are we supposed to still believe in santa as well?>|
Why not? Most of us believe in God, which amounts to the same thing.
|Nov-22-12|| ||al wazir: I think white must have had something better than 27. b4.|
|Nov-22-12|| ||David2009: The Turk (Automaton) has been a true inspiration to me.|
<TheTamale:> So for one day only <CG> becomes a turkey?
|Nov-22-12|| ||maxi: The Turk's game was so precise chess players referred to him as "the chess machine", believe it or not!|
|Nov-22-12|| ||FSR: <al wazir: I think white must have had something better than 27. b4.>|
Yes. 27.Re1, intending 28.h4 Nf7 29.Rxe4 followed by Re8+, is a much better try. If Black responds with 27...Nc5 (defending the e-pawn), then 28.b4.
|Nov-22-12|| ||waustad: When white played d5 I thought, "Thanks for closing the a2-g8 diagonal!"|
|Nov-22-12|| ||Gilmoy: <waustad: When white played d5 ...> It's the main line in the King's Turkish Defense.|
|Nov-26-12|| ||kevin86: The Turk was a parlor trick.|
|Nov-28-13|| ||Richard Taylor: I read about this as teenager in the 60s. From memory, and this was years ago, I think I read that Pilsbury used to get inside the "machine" and won some games. I think he earnt some money that way, especially as he was great at blindfold chess.|
But also from memory I think he used to consume a lot of whisky to get through the ordeal.
|Nov-28-13|| ||DrChopper: I think you mean the Ajeeb automaton: Ajeeb (Automaton)|