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| Dec-09-12 | | Conrad93: Anand was just making a joke. I'm sure it was nothing personal. |
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Dec-09-12
 | | scormus: What I like about these press conferences. You get the guys when theyre stressed, tired and often emotionally off balance. Then you expect them to be perfectly rational, and spank them when theyre not! |
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Dec-09-12
 | | Jim Bartle: Certainly a joke. It's been many years... |
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| Dec-09-12 | | Penguincw: Great escape by Anand. Meanwhile, if Nakamura won, he might've been able to secure the bronze. |
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Dec-09-12
| | Jim Bartle: But didn't Anand have a solid advantage before 46. h5? |
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| Dec-09-12 | | talfan: <kellmano: Great press conference. Vishy - I wanted to play Kf5, but released my King on f4 and saw what I'd done. I thought about 'doing a Garry' but decided not to.> Did he say that? Very nice.
Yes,he did. |
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| Dec-09-12 | | talfan: People saying this game was the worst of the year just have no clue. Perhaps they're missing 15 moves grandmaster "perfect" draws. |
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Dec-09-12
 | | whiteshark: <I thought about 'doing a Garry' but decided not to.> Already a chess classic!! |
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| Dec-09-12 | | master of defence: Whatīs wrong with 45.Rxb4?? |
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| Dec-09-12 | | BadKnight: you mean 45.Rxb5? looks like suicide. |
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| Dec-09-12 | | Kikoman: Hmmmm.... I wagered 500 bucks for draw in this game, and I'm so thankful. Kihx3 |
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| Dec-09-12 | | master of defence: Sorry, itīs 46.Rxb4. |
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| Dec-09-12 | | KODIAK: How is 58... Qd1+ not winning? |
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| Dec-09-12 | | Conrad93: Taking the pawn with the rook results in a win for white. |
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Dec-09-12
 | | tamar: I thought "doing a Garry" was slamming a door. |
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| Dec-09-12 | | niemzo: After 58...Qd1+, Ke3 seems to be the only move. Taking the pawn on h5 leads to a drawn position according to the tablebases. |
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Dec-09-12
 | | OneArmedScissor: "Doing a Garry" is what I do when I run out of toilet paper while taking a dump and have to waddle to the next bathroom across the house with my pants down |
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| Dec-10-12 | | arjunkakar: Only Garry gets under Anand's skin. I say that because Anand reacts and snaps only at Garry and no one else. Its as if the phlegmatic Anand makes exception only to take a dig (back?) at Garry. Why that's so truly we don't know. It perhaps has to do something with very early on on Anand's career too. A respected Indian journalist in an interview did broach subject with anand wherein it transpired that Kasparov very early on in Anand's career had dismissed him as an upstart whoose game was to shallow to ever reach the top. Somewhere Anand carried that grudge it seems. Also anand never really being able to dethrown kasparov might have a bit to do with it. |
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| Dec-10-12 | | Uparamesh: Mr Arjunkakar , you seem to be reading too much out of a mere joke.Gary and Vishy respect in their own way which we all know when Gary did what he did during Vishy- Topolov Wcc.
After the above joke mentioned Anand almost did mention the word `Mag` too.
It was enjoyable.
Everybody knows what Gary did during his game with Judith...taking the piece back after releasing it. |
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Dec-12-12
 | | AylerKupp: <<KODIAK> How is 58... Qd1+ not winning?> It is according to Houdini 1.5a which at d=27 calculates a mate in 56 moves (3rd fastest) after 57...Qe1+ 58.Kf3 Qd1+, with several pawn moves and pawn captures along the way so that the 50-move rule is not an issue. The quickest mate that Houdini finds at d=27 is after 57...Qa4+, mate in 47 moves. Second fastest at d=27 is mate in 50 moves after 57...Qa6. But let's not criticize Nakamura or even imply that we are criticizing him. That's easy to do after the game with all the time in the world and computer assistance to boot. He was in time trouble at this point and with queen endings there are many alternatives. One must calculate deeply and choose among several equally good looking moves, some of which win and some of which don't, and this is not apparent for quite a few moves afterwards. That he got into a position against Anand that resulted in winning chances is to his credit. But it looks like Nakamura's chances were gone after 58.Kf3 Qc3+ 59.Kg4. Houdini evaluates the position at [-1.07], d=33, just a reflection of the slight material advantage of Q vs. R+3P. Once the White king reaches the k-side pawns along the light squares and is capable of protecting them (and be protected by them) without Black being able to pick off White's rook, it's apparently a draw. I'm sure that Nakamura will remember this "principle" for a long time. |
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| Dec-15-12 | | Hesam7: 1. Why did Nakamura opt for 6...e5 rather than 6...e6 7 g4 d5 ? Is the mainline in trouble or was he aiming for more? Similarly it would be nice to see what Anand had prepared for the main line. 2. During the commentary Carlsen mentioned 13 Ne3 for White with the idea of Bd5 at some point: 
click for larger viewHe and Short then continued with 13...Nf6 14 Qf3 Rc8 15 Bb3. But I don't see how this line are any better than the game continuation. First after 13 Ne3 Rc8! Black does not have any problems. 3. Did Anand miss a simple win much earlier in the game? 23 Nec3! Bf5 24 Ne4 Qg6 25 f3! Bg5 26 Qe2 Rd8 27 Ba4 Rcc8 28 Bd7 Bd7 29 Nb6 Rc6 30 Nd7 Rd7 31 c4 
click for larger viewWhite has a simple plan of playing for the c5-break. For example: 31...Be7 32 Rd5 Rdc7 33 Rc1 Qf7 34 Qd3 Qe6 35 c5 dc5 36 bc5 
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Dec-19-12
 | | parmetd: I retold the story on this game here: http://www.uschess.org/content/view... |
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Dec-19-12
| | Jim Bartle: "...here Hikaru rather carelessly threw away a win in 198 moves or so..." Nice report, parmetd. |
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Dec-19-12
| | parmetd: thank you! |
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| Jul-19-13 | | Nileshmore: Why not... 46.Rxb4 , what he declined |
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