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|Jan-30-13|| ||Mac3: How can it be a Ponziani Scheme if Carlsen Madoff with the full point?|
|Jan-30-13|| ||Shams: <Mac3> Your fine pun just confirms my good opinion of people from Wellington.|
|Jan-30-13|| ||kevin86: Black will die quickly.
I like the opening-similar to the G Piano without the bishops.
|Jan-30-13|| ||Peligroso Patzer: <Abdel Irada: Interesting game, but I note that Black won.>|
This comment had me more than a little confused until I realized it must refer to A Fuderer vs Pachman, 1955, as cited and linked in a post in this thread by <morfishine>.
|Jan-30-13|| ||Check It Out: <Mac3> Well done!|
|Jan-30-13|| ||Marmot PFL: After white's 7th move the position is a well known line of the 2 Knights' defense, with a useful looking extra tempo (c3) for white Opening Explorer So this is probably not the best system for black, although playable.|
|Jan-30-13|| ||YoungEd: "Ponziani Schemiani" would be better! Uh...I have Tim Harding's old book on the Ponziani, and am convinced it's really not that bad!|
|Jan-30-13|| ||whiteshark: It really is a rigged game.|
|Jan-30-13|| ||perfidious: <Mac3> Nice un!|
|Jan-30-13|| ||morfishine: <Peligroso Patzer> No, you are right, Black also won in A Fuderer vs Pachman, 1955|
I confused myself :)
|Jan-30-13|| ||Abdel Irada: <Peligroso Patzer: <Abdel Irada: Interesting game, but I note that Black won.>|
This comment had me more than a little confused until I realized it must refer to A Fuderer vs Pachman, 1955, as cited and linked in a post in this thread by <morfishine>.>
Yes. That was what I meant. I should have made that explicit. My apologies for any confusion.
|Jan-30-13|| ||Abdel Irada: <Mac3: How can it be a Ponziani Scheme if Carlsen Madoff with the full point?>|
On the other hand, it usually *is* the perpetrator of a fraudulent scheme who makes off with the proceeds, while leaving his dupes holding an empty bag.
This is inherent to kleptoplutocracy by any other name.
|Feb-01-13|| ||pescau: After 50. ♘xf6, even though all three white pieces are attacked, two of them undefended, they are immune. I suppose the best move available to Black here is 50. ... ♕e7 and I couldn't find anything better for White than 51. ♖xf8 ♕xf8 52. ♘xh5, keeping pressure on g7 and three pawns to the good. |
Is there anything more forcing available to White?
|Feb-01-13|| ||fisayo123: Nepo's idea executed fantastically by Carlsen.|
|Feb-02-13|| ||Eyal: <pescau: After 50. Nxf6, even though all three white pieces are attacked, two of them undefended, they are immune. I suppose the best move available to Black here is 50. ... Qe7 and I couldn't find anything better for White than 51. Rxf8 Qxf8 52. Nxh5, keeping pressure on g7 and three pawns to the good. |
Is there anything more forcing available to White?>
Apparently not, but this seems to be forcing (or deadly) enough for a very quick win, due to the coming f6.
|Feb-02-13|| ||Eyal: Position after 12…Nb7:
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White’s most important trump in this position is the advanced pawn on e5 which gives him a space advantage and restricts the movement of Black’s pieces. Carlsen makes use of that immediately and very efficiently by pushing forward the f-pawn and building initiative on the K-side, taking advantage of the fact that Black can’t really challenge the e5 pawn by 13…f6 (as he could have done had he played 12…Ne6 instead of Nb7), because of 14.e6.
Instead, Harikrishna tries to get some counterplay on the Q-side by 13…a5 and manages to eliminate White’s pawns there, winning two pawns in the process. However, by move 21:
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we see that White’s e & f pawns have advanced further, increasing his space advantage and suffocating Black’s pieces, while Black’s extra pawns on the c & d files are safely blockaded due to White’s control of the dark squares and especially c5. Great strategic judgment by Carlsen.
|Dec-01-13|| ||thegoodanarchist: I love this pun!|
|Jan-10-14|| ||Dave1: Amazing position understanding from Casrlsen|
|Feb-08-14|| ||Fusilli: I'm in awe.|
|Feb-13-14|| ||DcGentle: This game just became a member of my Game Collection: Positional Masterworks.|
Pure positional play means, that Carlsen plays the whole game with the purpose to increase the positional pressure on his opponent.
This is an alternative method, because usually positional moves are only used to prepare tactical actions, and not in order to prepare other positional moves. Carlsen uses tactical threats and has to take into account tactical actions of the opponent, but this is it.
Very few games in the history of chess are played this way, I believe.
Carlsen is a very capable new world champion, even if some people miss the brilliant combinations culminating in striking sacrifices.
This is only one way to play the Royal Game.
|May-27-14|| ||Domdaniel: I used to play the Ponziani in casual and blitz games -- as 1.e4 e5 openings go, it's probably as good as the Ruy Lopez, Italian, etc. I can't see why it's been so neglected.|
|Mar-30-15|| ||Superjombonbo: 50. Nxf6 Qe7 51. Rxf8+ Qxf8 52. Nxh5 and White is winning.|
|Jul-22-17|| ||Dave12: The level of creativity and imagination from Carlsen in this game is among the highest you can ever see in chess.|
|Jul-22-17|| ||ChessHigherCat: With 38..Qf4, Black probably found the only the possible refutation of the megathreat 39. Qe7!!! (if Bxd7, 40. exd7 and Harikrishna is off to parinirvana).|
|Jul-22-17|| ||ChessHigherCat: A good reason to look gift horses in the mouth: |
If 41. Qxb4? Qg3 42. Qf8 (Rg8? 43. Qg3+ Kh8 44. Qxh5#) Rf7 45. Qh8 (Qg8 Qg3+ 46. Kg8 Qxh5+ 47. Qh7 Qxe1+) Qg3+ 46. Kg8 Qxe1#
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