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Magnus Carlsen vs Sergey Karjakin
Tata Steel (2013)  ·  King's Indian Attack: Yugoslav Variation (A11)  ·  1-0
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Feb-08-14
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  Patriot: <DBee Cooper> 77...Kh7 :-)
Feb-08-14  OldTimr: Good end game study from the champ.
Feb-09-14  patzer2: If 81...Bh6+ (position below),


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then 82. Kd4! d2 83. Rg1+ (position below)


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forces mate in six after 83...Kh8 84.Kxc3 d1Q 85.Rxd1 Kg8 86.e6 Bg7 87.Rd8+ Bf8 88.e7 Kf7 89.exf8Q#

Feb-09-14
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  LIFE Master AJ: << A very interesting game from Tata Steel 2013. Carlsen patience is simply impressive. >>

His patience doesn't mean squat, his 3000+ technique is what is impressive. In games five and six, he outplayed Anand in somewhat simple R+P endgames.

Feb-09-14  LAK: @<Jimfromprovidence>: 79 Rc6 was, of course, Stockfish's recommendation.

However, in the last position you posted, and without Stockfish's aid, so this could be flawed, I believe that the e-pawn is immune after 79 Rc6 Bh6+ 80 Kg4. If 80... Rxe5, then White checks with the Rook, and either the Black Bishop gets lost for the f-pawn, or the f-pawn creates more havoc by attempting to promote.

For example, 81 Rc6+ Bg7 82 f5. Or, 81... Kh8 82 Rc8+ Kg7 82 Rg8+ Kf6 83 Rg6+. The more complicated defense is 81 Rc6+ Kh8 82 Rc8+ Kh7, but I believe that then pushing the f-pawn with the threat of promotion and in some lines checks by the Bishop on d3 will result in either the Black Bishop or Black Rook to be lost.

Feb-09-14
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  LIFE Master AJ: M. Carlsen (2861) - S. Karjakin (2780)
[A07]
75th Tata Steel / GpA
Wijk aan Zee, NED (R#8.4) / 20,01,2013.

POTD / Saturday; 08 Feb. 2014

1.Nf3 Nf6 2.g3 d5 3.Bg2 c6 4.0-0 Bg4 5.c4 e6 6.d3 Nbd7 7.cxd5 exd5 8.Qc2 Be7 9.Nc3 Bxf3 10.Bxf3 d4 11.Ne4 0-0 12.Nxf6+ Nxf6 13.Bd2 a5 14.a3 Nd5 15.Rab1 Qd7 16.Rfc1 Rfe8 17.Qc4 Nc7 18.h4 a4 19.Bb4 Nb5 20.Kg2 h6 21.Bc5 g6 22.Qb4 Bf6 23.Qd2 Kg7 24.Rc4 Ra6 25.Qd1 b6 26.Bb4 c5 27.Bd2 Nc7 28.Rcc1 Nd5 29.Qh1 Be7 30.Kg1 Rd8 31.Rc2 Qe6 32.Qg2 Ra7 33.Re1 Rad7 34.Kh2 Rc8 35.Qh3 Qxh3+ 36.Kxh3 h5 37.Rb1 Ra8 38.Kg2 Ra6 39.b3 axb3 40.Rxb3 Bf6 41.Rc4 Rd6 42.Kf1 Kf8 43.a4 Nc3 44.Bf4 Re6 45.e3 Nxa4 46.Bd5 Re7 47.Bd6 b5 48.Bxe7+ Bxe7 49.Rxb5 Nb6 50.e4 Nxc4 51.Rb8+ Kg7 52.Bxc4 Ra7 53.f4 Bd6 54.Re8 Rb7 55.Ra8 Be7 56.Kg2 Rb1 57.e5 Re1 58.Kf2 Rb1 59.Re8 Bf8 60.Rc8 Be7 61.Ra8 Rb2+ 62.Kf3 Rb1 63.Bd5 Re1 64.Kf2 Rd1 65.Re8 Bf8 66.Bc4 Rb1 67.g4 hxg4 68.h5 Rh1 69.hxg6 fxg6 70.Re6 Kh6 71.Bd5 Rh2+ 72.Kg3 Rh3+ 73.Kxg4 Rxd3 74.f5 Re3 75.Rxg6+ Kh7;


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The current position for Saturday's POTD.

76.Bg8+! Kh8; 77.Kf4! Rc3;
Maybe ...Re1; was better, I offer some analysis below. (I have only scratched the surface on this game!)

[ One alternative was:
77...Re1; 78.Bc4 Kh7; 79.Rc6 d3; 80.Rc7+ Kh8;
This looks to be nearly forced.

(80...Kh6; 81.Bxd3 Rd1; 82.Be4 Rf1+; 83.Bf3 Rc1!?; 84.Rc8 Bg7; 85.f6 Rc4+!?; 86.Kf5 Rc1; 87.f7 Kh7; 88.Be4 Rg1; 89.Kf4+ Kh6!?; 90.Rh8+ Bxh8; 91.f8Q+ Bg7; 92.Qe7 Rf1+; 93.Kg4 Rg1+; 94.Kh3,


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The box wants to play "give-away" from here, so it is an easy win for White.)

81.Rc8 d2;

There is not much else that Black can play here.

(Or 81...Kg7; 82.f6+ Kh6; 83.Rxf8 Rf1+; What else?

(83...d2; 84.Rh8+ Kg6; 85.Bd3+ Kf7; 86.Rh7+ Ke8; 87.Bb5+ Kd8; 88.Rd7+ Kc8; 89.f7 Rf1+; 90.Bxf1 Kxd7; 91.f8Q d1Q; 92.e6+ Kxe6; 93.Bh3+ Kd5; 94.Qd8+ Kc4; 95.Qxd1,


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Black is dead, most players would resign here.)

84.Kg4 Rg1+; 85.Kh4 Rh1+; 86.Kg3 Rg1+; 87.Kf2 Rc1; 88.Rh8+ Kg5; 89.f7 Rc2+; 90.Kg3,


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Black is out of checks, its an easy win for White. (Fritz and Houdini both show mate in about 6-9 moves ... from the current position.) )

82.Rxf8+ Kg7; 83.Rf7+ Kh6; 84.Rf6+ Kh7;
This is abolutely the only good move here.

(Of course, much worse is: 84...Kh5??; 85.Bf7+ Kh4; 86.Rh6#.)

85.Bb3 Rf1+; 86.Ke4 c4; 87.Ba4 Re1+; 88.Kd4 Ra1;

(Or 88...d1Q+; 89.Bxd1 Rxd1+; 90.Kxc4,


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If you cannot win with two, connected-passed pawns, then forget about this game! (If checked from behind, the WK heads for e6.) )

89.Ke3 Rxa4; 90.Kxd2 Kg7; 91.Kc3 Ra5; 92.Rg6+ Kf8; 93.Kd4 Ra4; 94.Rc6 Ke8; 95.f6 c3+; 96.Kd5 Kf7; 97.Rc7+ Kg6; 98.Rxc3, " " And - once more - White is winning.


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Two connected, passed pawns ... ... ... ]

78.f6! d3; ("!?")
I am not sure about this move, however, I have not (yet) reached this point in my comp-assisted analysis.

79.Ke3 c4 80.Be6 Kh7 81.Bf5 Rc2 82.Rg2+ Kh6 83.Rxc2 dxc2 84.Bxc2 Kg5 85.Kd4 Ba3 86.Kxc4 Bb2 87.Kd5 Kf4 88.f7 Ba3 89.e6 Kg5 90.Kc6 Kf6 91.Kd7 Kg7 92.e7 1-0

Feb-09-14
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  LIFE Master AJ: 05:57 AM

I have hardly made a dent in this game, maybe more lines and variations later ...

Feb-09-14
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  Jimfromprovidence: <LAK> <However, in the last position you posted, and without Stockfish's aid, so this could be flawed, I believe that the e-pawn is immune after 79 Rc6 Bh6+ 80 Kg4. If 80... Rxe5,...>

I agree with your analysis that the e pawn is immune so after 79 Rc6 Bh6+ 80 Kg4 I am assuming 80...Bf8 to protect the c pawn and to give the king access to h6.


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The way forward is still unclear, maybe 81 Rc7+ Kh6 82 Rc8!?

Feb-09-14
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  LIFE Master AJ: I covered ...Re1, see above.

I spent over six hours on those variants, should cover most aspects.

Feb-10-14  LAK: <Jimfromprovidence><79 Rc6 Bh6+ 80 Kg4 Bf8 ... maybe 81 Rc7+ Kh6 82 Rc8!?> Nice move! I would think that Black's only choice is to go after the Bc4, which must find shelter somewhere, and at the same time impede the black pawns from advancing. Otherwise, as an example, there's the nice variation 82. ... Rc1 83. RxB RxB, and now say 84. e6 d3+ 85. Kf3 Rd4, and Black queens with check.

<LIFE Master AJ><I covered ...Re1> Please elaborate how that pertains to the concrete position under discussion: 76. Bg8+ Kh8 77. Kf4 Re1 78. Bc4 Kh7 79. Rc6 Bh6+ 80. Kg4 Bf8 81. Rc7+ Kh6 (which, by the way, is the primary line given by Stockfish.) You provide 79. ... d3.

Feb-10-14  LAK: Sigh! Instead of 84. e6, as I stated above, 84. f6 with, at some point, Kf5 creates mate threats against the Black King from a subsequent Rh8+. This gives sufficient time for White to decisively promote his e-pawn.
Feb-11-14
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  LIFE Master AJ:


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(79...Bh6+!?;
Looks stupid to me, Black is forced to lose several tempi with this insipid move.

80.Kg4 Bf8;
Otherwise White takes on c5 and it looks like that Black might be dropping both Pawns.

81.Rc7+! Kh6; 82.Kf4!,
At all costs, White should avoid putting both of his Pawns on light squares ... then many positions are drawn, due to a simple dark-square blockade.

(Just plain bad would be:
</= 82.e6? Re4+; 83.Kf3 Re3+; 84.Kg2 Kg5; unclear)

82...Rc1; 83.Be2! Re1;

Black can do little positive, if he pushes his c-Pawn, it is immediately lost.

84.Bf3 c4;
All the engines want to play this move. The reason? White's threat is very simple. Play f5-f6. then Be4. In response to Rook checks, the WK simply marches over to h4, then Black is in a mating web, and has to give up major material to prevent Rh7#.

85.Rxc4 d3; 86.Rc8 Ba3; 87.f6 Rf1; 88.Rd8 Kg6; 89.Rxd3

Unless Black can find a a perpetual check, White's two extra Pawns should win.)

Feb-11-14
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  LIFE Master AJ: The analysis - above - was checked done with Fritz 13, but checked with Deep Shredder and Houdini.
Feb-11-14
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  john barleycorn: <Feb-08-14
LIFE Master AJ:
I will analyze this with Fritz 13 - later on today - and post my results.>

you don't mean your results, right?

Feb-11-14  cormier: 9...Bxf3 is not good
Feb-12-14
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  LIFE Master AJ: If you want to analyze this game, feel free to stop by my forum ...
Feb-12-14
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  john barleycorn: <Feb-12-14
LIFE Master AJ: If you want to analyze this game, feel free to stop by my forum ...>

how can i when i am on ignore? remember, i sponsored your page? very ungrateful for a christian, isn't it?

Feb-12-14
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  MarkFinan: <how can i when i am on ignore? remember, i sponsored your page? very ungrateful for a christian, isn't it?>

It's extremely ungrateful JB. But he probably thinks that you'll be asking questions about Max or Miles, and we know he can't answer those kinda questions, lol. Why would anyone want to analyze this game there anyway, when this game has this page to discuss it!?

Feb-12-14
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  LIFE Master AJ: All I can say is ... if you are on my ignore list, you wanted to be there. (If not, you would have acted with at least a degree of caution, normalcy, and civility.)

Some people have said that some persons are incapable of real change. This is false, as <Colonel Mortimer> and I have buried the hatchet, put our differences behind us and now are on good terms. (Sure, we don't see eye-to-eye on every issue, but all our discussions are very civil and he has been more than nice to me ... and I want to take this chance to publicly thank him ... from the bottom of my heart.)

You demonstrated - over and over again - hostility, cruelty, threw out insults on a nearly daily basis, etc. You continuously violated the 4 rules here for kibitzing. You acted like a troll and then you were treated like one. (Rather than opt for open warfare, I simply placed you on ignore and have done my best to forget about you completely.)

Zero sympathy from me. QED

Feb-12-14
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  john barleycorn: happy birthday
Feb-12-14
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  MarkFinan: Lol 😃
Feb-14-14
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  LIFE Master AJ: Yes, my analysis looks good, so far, no one has shown me anything that clearly refutes it.
Mar-01-14  SpiritedReposte: Talk about a grind.

<LifeMasterSuperFly> is one hand clapping over here. *pat* *pat* good job champ.

Apr-17-14  Jambow: This game looks more like Karpov than Karpov's own games.
Aug-29-14  kontoleon: 81)... Rc2?? i thing this is the error of the game?
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