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|Feb-08-13|| ||Marmot PFL: I expected as much. Anand usually finds a way to reduce the tension.|
|Feb-08-13|| ||DcGentle: Could that be, that Black overlooked <26. d6> in his home preparation? I mean, if one plans a pawn sac, the first task is to look at ways how White could return the pawn.|
|Feb-08-13|| ||haydn20: I got up late, so sorry if this is dumb. It seems after 15. Bc2 Black got most of the play. Is this true? What might be better--maybe 15. Ng3?|
|Feb-08-13|| ||DcGentle: <haydn20>: No this is all theory, the real game started with 23... d5 where Black sacced a pawn.|
|Feb-08-13|| ||DcGentle: 26... Red8 would have been better, I claim.|
|Feb-08-13|| ||andrewjsacks: Interesting fighting draw.|
|Feb-08-13|| ||haydn20: <DcGentl> Thx. I should have remembered that much of the Ruy has been analyzed so extensively. Opening Ex has 17 games out past 23...d5 with the outcomes for White 6-10-1.|
|Feb-08-13|| ||Eyal: <haydn20: I got up late, so sorry if this is dumb. It seems after 15. Bc2 Black got most of the play. Is this true? What might be better--maybe 15. Ng3?> Giving up the LSB is usually considered a strategic mistake in the Ruy - Bc2 is pretty much the only move played here (Opening Explorer). It's not like everything after that is forced - as I heard Anand just saying in the post-game interview, 22.Ne3 might have been careless, allowing Black the strong d5 idea; perhaps White should play instead 22.Qd3, for example.|
|Feb-08-13|| ||andrewjsacks: <beenthere240> Calling Anand a "drawing master" makes about as much sense as calling Judit Polgar one: similar styles, attacking players, and almost always very enterprising chess as both White and Black.|
|Feb-08-13|| ||Ulhumbrus: 19 Bxf6 concedes the bishop pair. Instead of this 19 Bh4 maintains the pin.|
|Feb-08-13|| ||morfishine: Exciting game; Anand defended very accurately; I think I would've lost this playing either side|
|Feb-08-13|| ||SetNoEscapeOn: Nice little tussle. Vishy reacted well to an interesting novelty.|
|Feb-08-13|| ||morfishine: The two-pants game: Para drawers|
|Feb-08-13|| ||andrewjsacks: <SetNoEscapeOn> Absolutely correct. Interesting little fighting game.|
|Feb-08-13|| ||Travis Bickle: Here's a C88 Ruy Bobby played in a simul against me as a young prodigy.|
Fischer vs E Travis, 1964
|Feb-08-13|| ||Eyal: <Opening Ex has 17 games out past 23...d5 with the outcomes for White 6-10-1.> There are 17 games in the OE that reach 20.Ng4 (where the OE stops) - and in all of them Black played 20...Nxg4. From looking at some larger databases as well, it seems that Caruana's 20...a5 is new, though I won't be surprised if (as usually turns out about seeming novelties) it's already been played in some obscure correspondence game.|
|Feb-08-13|| ||perfidious: <Eyal> That commentary from Anand makes sense, as one of the points of White's whole line seems to be play against the weakness of d5. Bit surprising that Anand allowed the very idea he had wished to prevent.|
|Feb-08-13|| ||csmath: <There are 17 games in the OE that reach 20.Ng4 (where the OE stops) - and in all of them Black played 20...Nxg4. From looking at some larger databases as well, it seems that Caruana's 20...a5 is new, though I won't be surprised if (as usually turns out about seeming novelties) it's already been played in some obscure correspondence game.>|
20. Rc8 has been played as well, a5 looks like a new move but it is very natural, it is certainly not anything very surprising in this Breyer setup.
Anand is such a specialist in this that he cannot be surprised here.
Looks like there was very little ambition here to go beyond draw on either side.
|Feb-08-13|| ||Eyal: <perfidious> - Yeah, 22.Ne3 apparently "prevents" d5 but it turns out that Black can just sac the pawn and get satisfactory compensation; as Anand said, the idea of weakening b4 by 20...a5 (Caruana's novelty) & axb4 might have tipped him off, since it doesn't make much sense without being followed by d5.|
|Feb-08-13|| ||cro777: <Eyal: It seems that Caruana's 20...a5 is new, though I won't be surprised if (as usually turns out about seeming novelties) it's already been played in some obscure correspondence game.>|
This line is very popular in correspondence chess.
Position after 20.Ng4
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<20...a5> occurred in 6 games (+3-0=3).
At the 60th Anniversary of German CC Association (BdF) International Open semifinals (2009), in the game Alfredo (2440) - Ivanov (2277), Black opted for 20...a5, and the game continued 21.Nxf6+ Qxf6 22.Qd3 (Anand played 22.Ne3).
The game Colin (2113) - Janos (2382) at the European Championship Qualifications (2005) continued
22. Ne3 axb4 23. cxb4 d5 24. exd5 Bd7 25. Ng4 (Anand played 25.Qb1) Qg5 26. d6 Ra6 27. Qd3 e4 28. Rxe4 Rxd6 29. Qe2 Rd2 30. Qe1 Rxe4 31. Qxe4 g6 32. Bb3 Bxg4 33. hxg4 Qf6 34. Rf1 Rd4 35. Qe2 1/2-1/2
|Feb-08-13|| ||Eyal: <cro777> Thanks for the info - so I was even more right than I thought... This Colin-Janos game was probably mentioned already somewhere during the game, since there was a post that said <Rumor has it that 25.Qb1 is the novelty in Anand-Caruana - 25.Ng4 Qg5 has been played before>. The players themselves didn't know it, though - Anand said in the post-mortem that he asked Caruana right after the game finished what was the new move, and Caruana told him a5.|
|Feb-08-13|| ||HAPERSAUD: One can only pray that a way to crack the Berlin Wall will show itself to us king pawn aficionados :)|
|Feb-08-13|| ||csmath: So if Fabiano has prepared this as a correspondence chess line I am really impressed since this kid is really working hard on openings.|
If we can combine Magnus with Caruana's opening preparations will would get one hell of a player.
Anyway, it is really hard to surprise Anand in Ruy Lopez, he has been playing this for whole his life. Perhaps it is good for a draw only.
|Feb-08-13|| ||cro777: <22.Ne3> "Even a bit careless." (Anand). "Not the main move I focused on." (Caruana)|
22.Qd3 was better. Interestingly, this move (22...Qd3) was played in 5 correspondence games including Alfredo - Ivanov (2009) which I mentioned before. The French SIM Robert Serradimigni (2549) is the highest rated player among them.
The game Serradimigni-Repp (ICCF 50 years Jubilee Tournament Final, 2009) you may find here.
|Feb-08-13|| ||JPi: Thanks for the information <cro777>. The level of the game Serradimigni vs Repp is absolutely fantastic. Enjoy!
Thanks also to your deep insight during the game <Eyal>.|
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