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|Feb-15-13|| ||Ulhumbrus: <FSR: 44...h5! 45.Qh6+ Kg8 46.Nf6+ Kf7 and e5 falls (Houdini), and with it what remains of White's game.> As you said, Houdini says to White "I larf at your check"|
|Feb-15-13|| ||FSR: This is getting fun. On 49.Re1+, Black <must> play Kd4! 50.Qd8+ Kc3! and Black is crushing White (-23.19 Houdini). I'm glad Naiditsch didn't resign after the time control.|
|Feb-15-13|| ||chessgames.com: Thanks to everybody for coming by today. Stop by tomorrow at the same time for Caruana-Adams.|
|Feb-15-13|| ||AylerKupp: Caruana's acceptance of Anand's draw offer yesterday is looking better and better.|
|Feb-15-13|| ||Marmot PFL: There were still a few more spite checks but tomorrow is another day.|
|Feb-15-13|| ||tpstar: <chessgames.com> Thanks for the live broadcast. =)|
We tell students that you never want your King to be your furthest advanced piece, but in chess there are always exceptions. :-)
|Feb-15-13|| ||abdulruff: world championship should be fair like Tennis or football. Unless the method of judging world championship is reformed by allowing all top players, it remains farce and there is no fun in this.|
|Feb-15-13|| ||FSR: Boo! Having come this far, Naiditsch should have played on for the spectators with 50.Qd8+ Kc3! 51.Qd1, when best is 51...g5! (51...Qxf6?? 52.Qa1+, but 51...Rxe1 also wins) 52.hxg5 h4+!|
|Feb-15-13|| ||whiteshark: Naiditsch gambled this game away. It's highly entertaining though.|
|Feb-15-13|| ||abdulruff: YES Caruana wins the rounds as well as tournament|
|Feb-15-13|| ||Eyal: <Having come this far, Naiditsch should have played on for the spectators with 50.Qd8+ Kc3! 51.Qd1, when best is 51...g5! (51...Qxf6?? 52.Qa1+, but 51...Rxe1 also wins) 52.hxg5 h4+!> Well, if Black isn't playing just for comic/sadistic value, there's also "simply" 50...Rd7 to clarify the situation immediately (51.Nxd7 leads to mate in two).|
|Feb-15-13|| ||FSR: <Eyal> True. Very likely that's what Caruana would have played. White can also try 50.Qd8+ Rd7 51.Re4+, but Qxe4! is easy.|
|Feb-15-13|| ||okba12: 41.Rf1 was winning for white-try it|
|Feb-15-13|| ||Eyal: <41.Rf1 was winning for white-try it> No, it's losing to 41...Rd8! (which would also win on move 40, as was already noted during the live broadcast) - e.g. 42.Qe3 Rd2+! 43.Qxd2 Qxe5+ and mate.|
|Feb-15-13|| ||master of defence: If 41.Rf1?! why not the simple Qxc2+?|
|Feb-15-13|| ||Eyal: <If 41.Rf1?! why not the simple Qxc2+?> Because then Black is losing the bishop after 42.Rf2 (42...Qf5 43.Kg3), and he has to be creative in order to not actually lose the game: 42...Qd1 43.Qf4! Qh1+ (the bishop can't retreat because then 44.Nh5+! leads to mate) 44.Kg3 Qg1+ 45.Kxf3 Rd8! (threatening Rd3+) and White has nothing better than forcing a draw by e.g. 46.Ng4 Rf8 (now Rd3+ is met by Ne3) 47.Nf6 Rd8 etc.|
|Feb-15-13|| ||morfishine: <Eyal> On your comment <...and White has nothing better than forcing a draw by e.g. 46.Ng4 Rf8 (now Rd3+ is met by Ne3) 47.Nf6 Rd8 etc> In your line, 46.Ng4 Rd3 <47.Ke4> 47.Ne3 is not forced; I don't see a perp and Black has lost a piece|
|Feb-15-13|| ||dumbgai: A game where Qxb2 pays off. How about that?|
|Feb-15-13|| ||Eyal: <morfishine> After 47.Ke4 Qh1+ 48.Rf3 Black swaps off the heavy pieces and with three pawns for the knight should be able to draw the endgame (whereas after 47.Ne3 White is winning). Btw, note that White still needs the knight on g4 in order not to actually lose here in case of 47.Ke4 Qe1+ (and now he really must play Ne3).|
|Feb-15-13|| ||morfishine: Thanks <Eyal>! I looked at both 47...Qe1+ & 47...Qh1+; Thats what I was getting at: White holds the draw in this case|
I much enjoy your analysis and insight
|Feb-15-13|| ||Eyal: Trent [to Naiditsch, when the latter came to the commentary booth after the game]: You missed several wins, you know.|
Naiditsch: Yeah - I counted eight, but maybe I missed some...
Naiditsch was utterly disgusted with himself for having played 28.Nxf6 ("a five question marks move") instead of 28.c3, which both he & Caruana felt was winning - though the comp suggests that with accurate play Black can actually hold on (I've posted some of the lines during the game -
Naiditsch vs Caruana, 2013); but with Caruana's time-trouble this move (as well as 28.Qg3) would have given Naiditsch at least very good practical winning chances.
|Feb-15-13|| ||Eyal: Position after 24...Nxf6:
click for larger view
<25.Rd1!!> with both knights en prise leads to a truly spectacular win by White. Black needs to do something about the threat of 26.Rd7+ followed, for example, by 26...Kh8 27.Neg4:
25...Kxh6 26.Rd7! (26.Ng4+ also wins, but this is prettier) and the threat of 27.Qh4+ Nh5 28.Bg7# is a killer: 26...g5 27.Nf5+ Kh5 28.Bxf6 Qxf6 29.Rxh7+ Kg6 30.Rh6+.
25...Rad8 26.Nef5+! Kh8 (26...gxf5 27.Qg3+ and a quick mate follows after 27...Kh8 28.Rxd8 or 27...Kxh6 28.Bf4+) 27.Rxd8 Rxd8 28.Nf7+.
25...Qe6 26.Neg4 Be7 27.Qg3 (with the threat of Nf5+!) 27...Kh8 28.Bxf6+ Bxf6 29.Qxc7 (attacking Bb7 and preparing Rd7) 29...Qc8 (29...Bc8 30.Rd6) 30.Rd7 Qxc7 31.Rxc7 Bc8 32.Nf7+ and Black has to give up the exchange with Rxf7, else 32...Kg8 33.Nxf6+.
25...Bxe3 26.Rd7+ Kh8 (26...Kxh6 leads to the mate from the first line: 27.Qh4+ Nh5 28.Bg7#) 27.Ng4 Bh6 28.Qh4 Bg7 29.Rxg7! Kxg7 30.Rd1 (the d-file reloaded) 30...Qe6 (30...Rad8 31.Rxd8 Rxd8 32.Bxf6+) 31.Rd7+! Qxd7 32.Bxf6+ Kf7 (32...Kg8 33.Nh6#) 33.Ne5+ winning the queen and then the h7&g6 pawns, with hopeless position for Black.
|Feb-16-13|| ||csmath: This game is junk, sorry to say that. The opportunity presented itself but was missed and the game was decided by a sheer luck.|
|Feb-17-13|| ||morfishine: <csmath> You've conveniently placed this game in the same category as your post|
|Feb-17-13|| ||perfidious: <morfishine> Quite true.|
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