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|Mar-24-13|| ||FamilyTree: <22...Ng2 23.Nc3 why sacrifice the rook at e1 ???? And what's behind it ???????>|
Black extra exchange is not very useful in a position with no open files.
And its not sure if black will be able to open the kingside with h5-h4, etc.
Meanwhile white will grab one pawn after another in the queenside.
|Mar-24-13|| ||twinlark: <JPi: <Eyal> answered to your question <Twinlark> <A rather strong plan of attack should be Rf5-h5 followed by Nh4, which seems to force an exchange of knights because of Nxg2 threats, and then pushing forward the g-pawn with the h3-pawn as a target.>>|
Thanks for pointing that out as I hadn't gotten around to reading the earlier analyses.
Looking at <18. h3 Rf5 19. Rad1 Rh5 20. Kf1> seems to hold the fort quite well:
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If now <20...Rf8 (say) 21. Rd2> seems to hold without much cold sweat, eg: if now <21...Nh4 22. Nxh4 Rxh4 (22...Qxh4? 23. Bxc5) 23. f3>:
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and Black seems to have more than a few weaknesses to defend, eg: <23...Bd7?? 24. d4!> exploits the pin...<24...cxd4 25. Bxd6 Qxd6 26. Qxe5> and White has to be winning.
|Mar-24-13|| ||Just Another Master: yeah MCs King can run to C1 and be safer than a muffin in the oven.|
|Mar-24-13|| ||stukkenjager: 23.Nc3 Bc7 24.Re3 Nxe3 25.fxe3 Ba5 26.Bb2 Qd7 looks like 0-1 to me.
any thoughts ??|
|Mar-24-13|| ||JPi: <Twinlark> Your last diagram is an aesthetic figure: all white pawns on light squares. I think you found the way to defend the first and the second wave of Black charge. 24.d4 might be a good answer to 23...g5 also. May be again Rf5-Rg5-Rg3 eventually Qg5 with Bxh3. But as <Just Another Master> has noted if White can play Ke2-Kd1-Kc2 then I will definitively favors Carlsen's side. Whatever the position is really complex and it was a good challenge on both side.|
|Mar-24-13|| ||DcGentle: Hi <stukkenjager> ! Long time no see! :-)|
As you can read here,(Carlsen vs Radjabov, 2013) the idea of teking the bishop to a5 was also applied in my early analysis after the game. I guess Black overlooked it.
|Mar-24-13|| ||Eurotrash: The position that white goes for in this game, can only be advisable if it is part of careful home preparation, in which you have concluded that blacks attack is ultimately insufficient. I believe Carlsen, somewhat overconfidently, tried to figure all this out over the board, which is too big of a task even for him. Radjabovs mistake, in my opinion, was that he spent a lot of time also trying to figure this out. If he had left this job to Carlsen and just got on with the attack, he would have had a decent chance of a win. After all, there really isn't any other decent plan for black anyway.|
|Mar-24-13|| ||Eyal: <DcGentle> Btw, in the line 23...Nxe1! 24.Qxe1 Bc7! 25.Bb2 Ba5 26.Rd1, I think that 26...Rd6, with a view to Bxc3, doubling on the d-file (with Rfd8 or Qd7, depending on White's response) and playing e4 might be an even "cleaner" win than the one you suggested. Also, it's worth noting that 25.Ne4 Ba5 26.Bxc5 Bxd2 27.Qxd2 doesn't work for White because of 27...Qd7! and he can't regain an exchange because of Qh3 and mate.|
|Mar-24-13|| ||DcGentle: <Eyal>: Well, of course, many roads are leading to Rome already, my PM analysis was rather soon after the game and that there are other and maybe faster ways to win I won't exclude. Anyways, I guess it's also worth to mention that White was not really prepared when being confronted with Black's way to play the opening.|
If Carlsen has learned one thing here, then it's not wasted time to do a bit opening analysis himself. I can imagine that this is not his favorite occupation, because he rather likes competition than theory, at least this is my impression.
|Mar-24-13|| ||hchrist: Magnus is a fraud.|
|Mar-24-13|| ||Cemoblanca: Radjaboy looks still like a KID! ;)|
|Mar-24-13|| ||tpstar: I really like that picture of Matt Damon playing Ben Affleck.|
|Mar-24-13|| ||Ulhumbrus: Suppose that instead of 11 d3 White plays first 11 Ne4. On 11..Be7 12 d3 f5 14 Ned2 the N heads for c4 and Black seems in trouble.|
|Mar-24-13|| ||perfidious: < Cemoblanca: Radjaboy looks still like a KID! ;) >|
Quite true-hard to believe I played him in a Dos Hermanas qualifier twelve years ago! The way he looks even now, one would have thought him barely old enough to know how to move the pieces.
|Mar-24-13|| ||Bengambit: Chessguru and FamilyTree thanks for pointing those ideas out,blacks Queen side pawns are toast,whites a,b, and c pawns will march to the death starting with blacks isolated c6 pawn,good looking out to you both.|
|Mar-25-13|| ||LIFE Master AJ: Looks like Rady should have won this game easily ... ... ...|
|Mar-25-13|| ||JPi: So easily that he didn't.|
|Mar-25-13|| ||LIFE Master AJ: Well, one obvious factor was that Black had both a weak back rank and also shattered Pawns, so it wasn't that "easy" of a win, although I imagine Fritz 13 wins it without too many difficulties ...|
Meanwhile, for Carlsen to allow 18...Bg4 (18.Rad1?) was the equivalent of a blunder, especially for a player as highly rated as he is.
|Mar-26-13|| ||Cemoblanca: You had a lot of memorable chess moments in your life Alan. That's nice. Would have given anything to play against my favorite player of all time: Mischa Tal. A beautiful memory with a nice & friendly person. :)|
|Mar-26-13|| ||chancho: Radja was born in 1987 (same as Naka) and Magnus was born in 1990.|
These guys will be engaging in a good number of chessic battles for many years to come.
|Mar-28-13|| ||chessguru1: Bengambit: Chessguru and FamilyTree thanks for pointing those ideas out,blacks Queen side pawns are toast,whites a,b, and c pawns will march to the death starting with blacks isolated c6 pawn,good looking out to you both.|
White has no time to capture the weak c pawns due to pressure on g2/h2 (mating threats) and d file (control/capture of a pawn). By alternating between these two themes/ideas black will eventually win.
|Apr-05-13|| ||perfidious: <Eyal ......That's rubbish, of course. There's nothing wrong with using engines as a tool to help analysis, the problem is when their evaluations are taken completely uncritically by people screaming that someone "made a terrible blunder" and the like without having any idea of what's actually going on in the position.>|
This, +400 or more.
A corollary to the above is simply spewing the numbers whilst having no understanding what lies behind the evals.
|Apr-05-13|| ||Jim Bartle: "A corollary to the above is simply spewing the numbers whilst having no understanding what lies behind the evals."|
Quit picking on me!
|Apr-05-13|| ||perfidious: <Jim> I've only just got started-give me a chance!|
|Jul-17-13|| ||notyetagm: Carlsen vs Radjabov, 2013|
Game Collection: MISSED WINS!
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