Wilhelm Steinitz vs Barry / Pillsbury / Snow (1892) Boston Massacre

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Wilhelm Steinitz vs Barry / Pillsbury / Snow
"Boston Massacre" (game of the day Nov-20-2013)
Consultation Game, Boston (1892), Boston, MA USA, Apr-08
King's Gambit: Declined. Classical Variation (C30) · 0-1

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Nov-20-13		Richard Taylor: Good game by the black team. Pillsbury in the team! Hard one for Steinitz.

Nov-20-13		morfishine: Somebody please explain what the "Boston Massacre" has to do with this game ***

Nov-20-13		Cemoblanca: Ok, he was very corpulent, but 3 VS 1?!?! That was, of course, unfair. LOL! Nevertheless, great game!

Nov-20-13		FSR: <morfishine> The game was played in Boston, and Steinitz was massacred.

Nov-20-13		FSR: <hedgeh0g> I agree - a beautiful game, which gave a foretaste of Pillsbury's tactical abilities, three years before his stunning upset victory at Hastings (1895). Surprisingly, Pillsbury had great difficulty with old man Steinitz, http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches..., though he had an even record against Lasker, http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... If only he had stayed away from that hooker in St. Petersburg, he might well have been the third world champion.

Nov-20-13		solskytz: The black queen is the guy with the vacuum cleaner left over to take care of stuff after the party is over.

Nov-20-13		stoy: In baseball the "Boston Massacre" was a four game sweep by the Yankees over the Red Sox in 1978, the same year that Bucky Dent hit his famous home run over the Green Monster.

Nov-20-13		kevin86: Was steinitz fluffed up by the doughboy,Barried,or Snowed under-or all of the above?

Nov-20-13		RookFile: All 3 guys playing lived in or near Boston and competed regularly at the chess club in Boston - the Boylston Chess Club. The Boylston club is still around today, and ironically has moved to nearby Somerville - Pillsbury's birthplace.

Nov-20-13		Calar: Wow. Excellent game and very enjoyable to play through.

Nov-20-13		solskytz: Generally when 3 people play again 1, it's invariably the 1 who wins. Chess isn't so akin to street fighting (although even there things like that happen on occasion)

Nov-20-13		Domdaniel: John Finan Barry was a strong player in Boston 100 years ago -- but was not the originator of the Barry Attack, a system in the Queen's Pawn opening. The Barry Attack is English rhyming slang: Barry, Barry White, Shytte.

Nov-20-13		karban: So King's Gambit doesn't have to be always accepted:) Is this a suggestion what is going to happen in the tomorrow Big Game?

Nov-20-13		TheTamale: If you click on Pillsbury's name, it takes you not to the Harry Nelson Pillsbury of renown, but to a dude who played only this game. Is this an oversight, or is this indeed a different Pillsbury?

Nov-20-13		Whitehat1963: What happens if 16. Nd5?

Nov-20-13		solskytz: <Whitehat1963> The white Q falls with check. After that black has ...Qh4+; he's up material and with a dangerous attack. White is wide open and his rooks are stuck in corners. Prognosis: bleak.

Nov-20-13		Whitehat1963: Yeah, check, duh! Blind of me. That check kind of ruins everything, doesn't it!

Nov-20-13		morfishine: <FSR> Thanks, I figured it must've been played in Boston; thats the only thread I could perceive. But being sensitive to historical events, I feel the use of the term 'Boston Massacre' seems totally out of place, particularly when one attempts to incorporate the phrase into a "pun" *****

Nov-20-13		FSR: <morfishine: ... being sensitive to historical events, I feel the use of the term 'Boston Massacre' seems totally out of place, particularly when one attempts to incorporate the phrase into a "pun"> I don't think the admins are as sensitive to historical events as you are.

Nov-20-13		Phony Benoni: <morfishine> As I mentioned earlier, this was one of my puns. I certainly had no thought that it might be out of line. On reflection, I can understand your point of view. For instance, if we had a game lost by player named Fields, "Killing Fields" would be highly inappropriate. "Boston Massacre" still doesn't seem quite as bad to my mind, but your point is definitely something to keep in mind for the future.

Nov-20-13		sfm: Brilliant! Every counter precise.

Nov-20-13		sfm: <morfishine: ...I feel the use of the term 'Boston Massacre' seems totally out of place> LOL! So if somebody lost to a player called "Wasserklo" you'd object to the pun "Facing his Waterloo", I assume. 30k people were killed there, not 5 like in Boston. And I also assume that ABBA shouldn't have used the name for a lighthearted love song? Get real, mate.

Nov-21-13		FSR: If anyone is curious about the (original) Boston Massacre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosto... Fun fact: the British soldiers were defended at trial by John Adams, later the second President of the United States. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosto...

Nov-25-13		DeutroJesaja: Very interesting game. Thank you FSR for the links and info on the original Boston Massacre.

Nov-25-13		RubinSteinitz: <TheTamale: If you click on Pillsbury's name, it takes you not to the Harry Nelson Pillsbury of renown, but to a dude who played only this game. Is this an oversight, or is this indeed a different Pillsbury?> I think this is the only game where Mr. Pillsbury played with these other fellows as a team. At least that we have record of. --Hello Richard! -- :)

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