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Magnus Carlsen vs Vladimir Kramnik
"The B's Knees" (game of the day Dec-07-13)
Tal Memorial (2013)  ·  Trompowsky Attack: General (A45)  ·  1-0
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Jun-14-13  BUNA: <badest: I really have problems with the 42 ... h4+. Why on earth go for that line? Just don't understand. ...>

I thought about that myself and the only explanation I could come up with is that Kramnik badly misassessed the resulting B & P endgame.

Both Carlsen (during the press conference) and Grischuk (during the game before 45.Rxf6) said they were sure that with white's king on f4 it should be a simple textbook win. Kramnik on the other hand immediately gave up the pawn with 46...d2 to gain the e5 square for his king.

So when initiating the sequence with 42...h4 Kramnik probably thought that by keeping his king on e5 he could hold the endgame?!

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  tamar: I've been looking for the win after 44...Rf1 45 Bg4

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Even the computer has been sacrificing the exchange to try to reach tablebase draws. But it appears White has a careful path to a tablebase win.

45...Ra1 46 Bf3 Ra2 47 Re6 Ra4 48 Rd6 Rb4 49 Kf2 Rh4 50 Ke3 Bf5 51 g4 Bc8 52 Rc6 Rh8 53 Bg2 Rd8 54 Kd2 Kf7 55 Rc2 Rh8 56 Ra4 Kg6 57 Ra8 Rf8 58 Be4+ Kg5 59 Bf5 Rxf5 60 gxf5 Bxf5

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White wins in 50, but has to be careful not to slip into several draws along the way.

Jun-14-13  Thunderballs: TROMP!!
Jun-16-13  marljivi: I saw some of earlier kibitzing about 18.Nc4-most probably Carlsen didn't like 18...Ba6 19.Nce5Bd3 20.Nd3Na4,or 19.e5Qg6 20.Nd6Bd3 21.Qd3Na4,but not 18...Nc4?! 19.Bc4Bb7 20.Bd3Rac8 21.c4 with more or less clear pawn up,and also not 18...Na4? 19.e5!...(19.Qa4?Rd3 20.Nb6Rb8 21.Qe8Bf8 22.Nc8Rd8! and white hardly has anything.) 19...Qg6 (19...Qe7 20.Bf5!ef5 21.Qa4 ) 20.Bf5!...(20.Qa4?Rd3 21.Nb6?Bb7!(21...Rf3? 22.Qc6!! )22.Na8Bf3 23.g3Qh5 24.h4Bb7!! .) 20...Qf5 21.Qa4 (21...Bb7? 22.Nd6!).

However,what isn't so clear to me is why white didn't play 18.Bc4!? For example 18...Nc4 (18...fe4 19.Ne4Qg6 20.Bd3!?) 19.Nc4Bb7 20.ef5!?...(At first sight 20.e5? looks more in the spirit of the position,but actually it is not:20...Qg6 21.Ncd2...(21.Qe2?Ba6!) 21...Bh6! and so on.Possible,but pretty passive is 20.Ncd2,where black has slight,very slight compensation for the pawn.) 20...Rac8 21.Nce5Bf3 22.gf3...(22.Nf3?Rc3 is approximately equal.) 22...Rd5 23.f4,or 22...Rc5 23.f4-where does black have sufficient compensation for the pawn?

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  RookFile: This is similar to a Fischer vs. Keres ending.
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  Eyal: Yeah, Fischer vs Keres, 1959 - there White had f & h pawns, and also had to make sure that Black wouldn't sac his bishop for the pawn not on the h-file, because of a "wrong color" bishop of his own.
Jun-17-13  Chessinfinite: So, is Chickenik now terrified of Carlsen also? Nice escape strategy against Anand, but one cannot avoid playing Carlsen yet in tournaments.
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  Sokrates: Agreed <badest> - this lack of calibre by Kramnik is exactly what I meant. Before his WC match with Anand you heard Kramnik express all kinds of reservation on Anand's playing strength. After the match: never again. Perhaps all this has roots in the fierce and paranoid environment in the old Soviet Union and the almost intimidating dominance Kasparov had when the player Kramnik emerged.
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  Phony Benoni: You may think that the GOTD and Pun collections are easy to compile. Not so.

Back on January 26, the pun "The b's Knees" was used for Keene vs R Kneebone, 1974, evidently referring to the b-pawn. Today's pun refers to White's Bishop.

So are they two different puns? And, even worse, which comes first in alphabetical order.

I mention this only because I can't think of a sensible comment about the game, other than "How do they do that?"

Dec-07-13  Blunderdome: Capitalization can be relevant in punning, so I'd say they're different.

As to alphabetical order... you're the authority on that one.

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  Richard Taylor: Carlsen can cetainly grind them out.
Dec-07-13  Tim Delaney: "The B's Knees" is alphabetized first, "B" being less (Chr 66) than "b" (Chr 98).
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  FSR: Is it "How to Win Despite Having a Bishop and Wrong-Colored Rook Pawn Week"? See also Short vs Kasparov, 1989. Incidentally, about 35 years ago I directed a tournament where Tony Sillars (1900-something) had the lone king in a B+wrong-colored RP+K v. K ending against an expert who shall remain nameless. Sillars of course knew that the ending was drawn and had steered for it. The expert somehow had never acquired that piece of knowledge and had assumed that he was winning easily. Having reached the ending, he was surprised to find that there was no way to win. The players summoned me and asked for confirmation that the ending was indeed a draw. Normally TDs don't provide such information, but since both players were agreeable I confirmed that yes indeed, it was a draw - whereupon they immediately shook hands.
Dec-07-13  zvhar: it is amazing how both players manage to damage other's pawn structure in the first ten moves..
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  offramp: Here is something else one can learn from this great game.

After 1. d4 Nf6 2. Bg5 d5 3. e3 c5 ...

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... Carlsen says, <"The best way to handle the Trompowsky.">

Straight from the Norse's mouth.
So now you know!

Dec-07-13  HeMateMe: Not to be insulting to Kramnik, but is there really any drawing resource here for black, against the connected passed pawns, with same color Bishops? He might have resigned earlier.

Well, can't blame a guy for trying.

Dec-07-13  catlover: "The B's Knees"-- Does anyone know where that expression comes from? The only place I've ever encountered it (other than here) was in the movie "Up." In the movie," I gathered that it meant something special or fashionable.
Dec-07-13  thegoodanarchist: <HeMateMe: Not to be insulting to Kramnik, but is there really any drawing resource here for black, against the connected passed pawns, with same color Bishops? He might have resigned earlier.

Well, can't blame a guy for trying.>

It looks as if he was testing Carlsen's knowledge. Once Magnus declined to take the bishop offering, which would have given him doubled rook pawns and a piece [but no winning chances], Kramnik could have resigned.

But the top level guys are fighters to the end, if they don't go into a game planning a GM draw in advance.

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  offramp: <catlover: "The B's Knees"-- Does anyone know where that expression comes from?>

I believe it is a facetious way of saying, "the business", ie a good thing.

It could be an imitation of a foreigner's way of saying "business".

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  hms123: <catlover>

Here's some useful info on the origin of the expression. It has been around a long time:

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  kevin86: The champ-to-be can play the endgame ok.
Dec-07-13  dumbgai: <humangambit: Although Carlsen has shown his strength i dont really think he stands a chance against Anand's opening preparation....>


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  ajile: I'm surprised this opening isn't played more often at top levels. The move 2.Bg5 is quite irritating to Black and White gets this bishop out and then plays e3 creating a dark squared pawn structure. If Black doesn't move the knight on move 2 he is getting doubled pawns. There is some slight compensation since Black gets the 2 bishops but not enough IMO.
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  Annie K.: My pun, sorry <Phony>. ;)
Jan-22-14  BKITU: <catlover: "The B's Knees"-- Does anyone know where that expression comes from? ... I gathered that it meant something special or fashionable.>

The spelling is a pun. The actual expression is "the bee's knees" and it's simply an old-fashioned version of today's "cool" or "awesome."

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