|Jul-09-13|| ||Sihlous: This game is the definition of a great exchange sac...Great play from Grischuk.|
|Jul-09-13|| ||csmath: To me this game is simply a definition of random luck in chess. Mamedyarov simply miscalculated something in the middlegame while exchanging rooks (for no apparent reason).|
In general most of tactical games on the top level are decided by luck nowadays. There is not a single great attacker nowadays, they all pretty much see the same.
|Jul-09-13|| ||tamar: <csmath> Both players missed a lot in the game, although I found Grischuk's commentary brilliant anyway, and did not seem to realize that Black was not forced to try for active play with 49...Rb2.|
Mamedyarov did offer that he missed in the final position 61...Rb8 threatening mate would fail to 62 f8N+!, so he missed how big White's advantage really was.
|Jul-09-13|| ||Sihlous: The game was by no means perfect but if you're looking at it without computer analysis Grischuk's sac and follow-up play was impressive and very smothering.|
|Jul-09-13|| ||tamar: Grischuk if anything was too pessimistic about his chances. For example after 43...Rc6 he had planned 44 Nc4 but then noticed Black could play 44...Rd5 |
Now 45 Nb6 Rxb6! and there are pins protecting each rook.
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This dissuaded him from this line, but he missed that 45 Nb6 is not forced, and White can play the calm 45 Kh2 as Black is not threatening the c5 pawn
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It took me a while to understand 45 Kh2, but one of the points is if 45...Bxc5 46 Qa4 and there is no check on e4, so Black will lose material.
|Jul-09-13|| ||Garech: Fantastic game, despite the inaccuracies, which can be easily forgiven.|
|Jul-09-13|| ||Nezhmetdinov: I understand what is being said here, but I find it depressing that amateurs are willing to "forgive" errors by these giants.
This is a very interesting game.|
|Jul-09-13|| ||tamar: Ipatov's note in Chessbase on 49...Rb2
<Too ambitious. Black gives up the third pawn for no reason. 49...f6!? Protecting the pawn-e5 in advance.>
However, the draw after 49...f6 is not easy. White can slowly build his position as Black has weaknesses on both wings, and the c pawn is surprisingly strong.
For example 49...f6 50 Nb3 Be7 51 c6 Kh7 52 Na5 Qc8 53 Bd2 Qf8 54 Nb7 Qf7 55 Qd3 Rbc8 56 Na5 Rb8 57 Be3 Kg7 58 Rc2 and White's advantage has slowly grown to .70/27
Black can still defend, but has to play very exactly, and for the most part, passively, to avoid loss.
|Jul-09-13|| ||Everett: <Nezhmetdinov: I understand what is being said here, but I find it depressing that amateurs are willing to "forgive" errors by these giants. This is a very interesting game.>|
Agreed, yet it is clear, judging by such commentary, most here are fans of the game, with little expressed desire to get better. To make clear, a game like this offers great study material for an ambitious player. We see complaints mostly from those who want to be merely entertained. They only praise "perfection," or their chosen hero.
|Jul-10-13|| ||perfidious: <Nezhmetdinov:....I find it depressing that amateurs are willing to "forgive" errors by these giants....>|
From more than one poster in these pages, the comment would come across as condescending, but not <Garech>; at worst, his choice of words might have been improved and is likely only a figure of speech in any case. No harm done.
|Jul-11-13|| ||kellmano: Good press conference on official site.
Gris - It is difficult for me to play Shakhriyar because my daughter is in love with him and secretly roots for him when we play. She tells me she wants me to win but I can see in her eyes that this is not true.
|Jul-15-13|| ||Garech: Guys, you got me wrong!! I think it is an awesome game, and there are huge amounts to learn from it. I am an amateur but I have ambitions about improving always. That said, mistakes are mistakes - in my own games, and in the games of GMs, it is something that bothers me in chess. Sorry if that bothers you!|
<perfidious> - thanks for the backup.