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David Howell vs Daniel Gormally
"Thirstin' Howell" (game of the day Aug-12-2013)
British Championship (2013), Torquay ENG, rd 9, Aug-06
English Opening: Anglo-Indian Defense. Queen's Knight Variation (A16)  ·  1-0

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Aug-12-13  King Sacrificer: <HeMateMe: Bricked in like Vincent Price, in the Cask of Amontillado.>

Fortunato was the guy bricked in, if we are talking about the same Poe story.

Aug-12-13  DoctorD: FinalGen indicated White wins in 23 with 36. Kc3. At that point, any pawn push or moving the WK to the a file would draw. Any reasonable knight move wins.

I recommend others try FinalGen, it is a great way to develop tablebases for seven man positions. It took less than 2 hours to find the winning lines.

Aug-12-13  talisman: "Luvey"...
Aug-12-13  goodevans: <King Sacrificer> There have been many small and big screen adaptations of "The Cask of Amontillado", but the 1962 "Tales of Terror" one, starring Vincent Price as Fortunato, was probably the most famous.
Aug-12-13  The HeavenSmile: <miseiler> <FSR> seems more like its a reference (intentional or not) to this guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirst...

Aug-12-13  jahhaj: <FSR> Kc8 draws, Kc7 loses, I think.
Aug-12-13  Marmot PFL: I read in the news recently that a man reported his wife missing about 40 years ago. When he died the house was sold, and when the buyer knocked out a wall in the basement there she was.
Aug-12-13
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  FSR: <jahhaj: <FSR> Kc8 draws, Kc7 loses, I think.>

Correct. The Black king wants to shuffle between c7 and c8 ad infinitum, with a draw since the White king is imprisoned. The only way White can ever stop that is to move his knight so as to prevent the king from moving to the other of the two squares. So if the Black king is on c7, it does not fear a move like Ne6+; it fears a move like Ne7! with zugzwang. In other words, the king when on the dark square c7 is afraid that the knight will also move to a dark square, with zugzwang. The king does not fear the knight moving to a light square, which can be no worse than check. So the Black king on its first move must copy whatever square the knight is on. Here the knight is on a light square, so 1...Kc8! is the move. If the knight were on a dark square, 1...Kc7! would be required.

Aug-12-13
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  FSR: <Marmot PFL> http://www.clarionledger.com/articl... The article mentions that the wife-killing guy had been a member of his high school chess club. Apparently he really was as the prosecution in the Wallace murder case portrayed Wallace: an evil, calculating chess player who concocted a plot to murder his wife and get away with it. http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/...
Aug-12-13
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  FSR: <The HeavenSmile> Maybe so; I'd never heard of Thirstin Howl III.
Aug-12-13  Abdel Irada: <Marmot PFL: I read in the news recently that a man reported his wife missing about 40 years ago. When he died the house was sold, and when the buyer knocked out a wall in the basement there she was.>

I guess that means he was more careful than a certain literary protagonist not to immure a black cat with the corpse.

As to the question of <Thurston Howell, III> vs. <Thirstin Howl III>, my money's on the former, since "Gilligan's Island" is a staple of American popular culture.

Aug-12-13  Abdel Irada: <Gor, Molly, that hurt!>

And the funny bit is, Black probably took great care to make sure he wouldn't be mated ... by 44. g3†, etc.

So here he is. He's carefully examined the entire g3 line and found it harmless. Time pressure is over; he can relax and mobilize his pawns as planned. Indeed, he has overlooked but one small thing....

Aug-12-13  Marmot PFL: Police even hired a psychic but never thought to search the basement.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/03/n...

Aug-12-13  The HeavenSmile: <FSR> I doubt many people have, but it seems likely that the composer of the pun has. But i find it difficult to believe they could misspell Thurston quite that much. Its just a coincidence that mr howl has taken his name from the novel. I only came across it thanks to google
Aug-12-13  kevin86: Black turned a near certait endgame loss into a near suicide mate.

Why was Mr. Howell thirsty? Was he in a desert or on a DESERT ISLAND?

Aug-12-13  waustad: I got the pun much faster than I might have due to running into Gilligan's Island characters in crossword puzzles of late.
Aug-12-13  bengalcat47: The character of Thurston Howell the 3rd on Gilligan's Island was played by the late and talented actor Jim Backus. One of the things L always enjoyed about Jim Backus was his role as the voice of one of my favorite cartoon characters, namely the near-sighted Mr. Magoo!
Aug-12-13
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  FSR: <Marmot PFL> According to the article I cited:

<Detectives told the Journal they tried to get a search warrant for his house, but were unable to>

Aug-13-13
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  Phony Benoni: Ever combine the lyrics from "Amazing Grace" with the "Gilligan's Island" theme?
Aug-13-13  Abdel Irada: <Phony Benoni: Ever combine the lyrics from "Amazing Grace" with the "Gilligan's Island" theme?>

Briefly, but "Gilligan's Grace" never quite worked out as a song, while "Amazing Island" almost got me sued for copyright infringement.

Aug-14-13
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  Phony Benoni: <Abdel Irada> Then try Beethoven's "Ode to Clementine". All the principals are long gone by now.
Aug-15-13  Abdel Irada: <Phony Benoni: <Abdel Irada> Then try Beethoven's "Ode to Clementine".>

And leave out the composers of "Oh My Darlin' Joy"?

Nov-02-13
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  GMDanielGormally: I saw the mate at the end actually. I'm not that weak! :D I just wanted to finish the game in a beautiful way as it is obvious with other moves I will lose in the long-run.
Nov-03-13  PhilFeeley: Danny? Why sac the knight: 24...Nxe4? You weren't losing at that point.
Nov-14-13
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  Check It Out: The final position is cool. Thanks for allowing it, GM Gormally!
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