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Vladimir Kramnik vs Anton Shomoev
Russian Superfinals (2013), Nizhny Novgorod RUS, rd 1, Oct-05
Zukertort Opening: Symmetrical Variation (A04)  ·  1-0


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Oct-06-13  zluria: No comments yet on this crazy game? The insanity starts with 9. cxd5, and goes downhill from there. This game is an answer to anyone who says Kramnik is just a "pampered goldfish" :-)
Oct-06-13  haydn20: Holy simoly, I thought this was blitz between two patzers on the internet. E.g., 19...Nd7? when surely 19...Ba8 is winning. And what's with 6...g6 when the B is already well-developed. Could that really have been Kramnik playing 10. Nb3?!
Oct-06-13  visayanbraindoctor: jamesmaskell: <Shomoev was well down on the clock early on and with 20 moves to time control was practically down to 30 sec increment. Kramnik didn't seen to be spending that much time at the board>

I was also watching the video.

18. Qxc5 Ra6 19. Rb1 Nd7 20. Qe3+ Kf7 21. Bxd6

At this point Kramnik a rook down went away and upon returning seeing the expected Ra6 by Shomoev, the only move not to lose a piece, immediately moved 19. Rb1 while he was still sitting himself back in his chair. The rattled Shomoev then attacked White's Queen Nd7 which blundered away a piece back to Kramnik, completely missing 20. Qe3+ .

Vlad the Vluffer (",).

Oct-06-13  goggi: 19...Ba8! 20.Qb4 (20.Nd4 Nd7 21.Qc2 Nf7!):
Oct-06-13  Overgod: This is objectively a lost game for Kramnik (if he played this against a Carlsen, Anand or Aronian, Nakamura or a Topalov or a computer).

He can only bluff his way through like this against a 2500.

Oct-06-13  fgh: <if he played this against a Carlsen, Anand or Aronian, Nakamura or a Topalov>

Of course:

Carlsen vs Topalov, 2012


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  HeMateMe: This was a nasty beat down! Could be a great event.
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  Marmot PFL: The Russians want Kramnik over 2800 again, and black wasn't going to win this event anyway.
Oct-06-13  superstoned: Yes <Marmot>, must be a conspiracy!
Oct-07-13  Overgod: <fgh: <if he played this against a Carlsen, Anand or Aronian, Nakamura or a Topalov> Of course:

Carlsen vs Topalov, 2012


Umm, your point being? First of all, Kramnik is not Carlsen (nowhere near, in fact, according to the ratings).

Second, Carlsen's game was more complicated and actually more uncertain, than Kramnik's game. Carlsen's sac was not as dubious as Kramnik's.

Third, calling me a troll after posting a game, which clearly doesn't support your position, demonstrates the limitations of your mental equipment.

How about I just call you a troll instead?

That will certainly strengthen my argument.


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  Natalia Pogonina: After Kramnik finished his R1 game the arbiter asked him if he had blundered both Ne4 and Ra6. Vladimir smiled and said he isn't yet a pensioner to overlook this. However, after 19...Ba8 White is objectively lost. Still, great practical chances and an exciting game as a result. :)
Oct-10-13  devere: Coffee-house chess in the Russian Championship. The man who used to be called "drawnik" played with reckless abandon, and this time it worked.
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  whiteshark: It works until it doesn't.
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  Natalia Pogonina: Annotations by GM Naiditsch:
Oct-18-13  Andrijadj: It is sad, really, to downgrade or berate games like this or Carlsen-Topalov. You guys just sitting and playing around with your computers, and performing blunder checks and things, you're just missing the point. This is brilliant chess, triumph of invention and creativity. I, myself rarely play like this (of course, on a very, very lower level), I like to play simple positions and go for endgames because it's my strongpoint, but if you can't appreciate this-you simply do not love chess. It's not dentistry, you know. The objective of the play is not to find the first Fritz or whatever recommendation. It is to win-and Kramnik here (or Carlsen against Topalov) made a beauty of it. And you just scold it. Sad, really...
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  GrahamClayton: "What was I going to play on 19...♗a8?. Honestly, I didn't have any clear plan. Probably I would play 20. ♘d4. I know that objectively Black is better, but, well, we can say I played in Tal's style" - Kramnik.
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