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Laszlo Zsinka vs Adam Szeberenyi
"Book Line and Zsinka" (game of the day Jan-21-2017)
HUN-chT 0203 (2002), Hungary, rd 3, Nov-24
Gruenfeld Defense: Exchange Variation (D85)  ·  1-0
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Jan-21-17
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Took a while to nail down that Black King, didn't it? Curious about this 5.Bd2 variation in the Grunfeld--it looks so harmless, passive, even lazy, so how does it prove so dangerous so often? By lulling Black to sleep?
Jan-21-17
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  al wazir: 33. Qg7 would have been a faster win.
Jan-21-17
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  offramp: A very good pun for today's game. It's a good game as well, it's odd to see such a wide-open Grünfeld, with no centre pawns at all for most of the game.
Jan-21-17
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  offramp: <al wazir: 33. Qg7 would have been a faster win.>

That reminds me of some advice I once read, I think it was from GM Dr Nunn and it may have been a note to the game J Ost-Hansen vs Nunn, 1974.

He said that king-hunts will often begin and end with a series of checks, but there is often a crucial non-check during the sequence. If you miss it and keep checking, the king can sometimes run away.

In this game it made no difference, but in many king-hunts I have seen Nunn is right about there being a crucial non-check.

And here is a king-hunt with no checks, very odd: Botvinnik vs Gligoric, 1956.

Jan-21-17
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  ChessHigherCat: Excellent pun. I was about to ask the question "If 14.Q*a2, then B4, right, followed by Ng4?" That was roughly the idea but what white had in mind was about 10 ply more sophisticated than my idea. Superficially, that kind of complication is what they call "finasser" in French, meaning to look for micro-refinements that serve no purpose, but it's really what separates the sheep from the goats in this age of computerized analysis ad infinitum (or ad nauseam, depending on how you look at it), where only the best (or second-best) line wins
Jan-21-17
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  DrCirganaerepil1989: I don't get the pun :/
Jan-21-17
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  ChessHigherCat: Hook, line and sinker: used to emphasize that someone has been completely deceived or tricked. "he fell hook, line, and sinker for this year's April Fool joke" synonyms: completely, totally, utterly, entirely, wholly, absolutely, through and through, one hundred percent, 'lock, stock, and barrel' "they believed her phony alibi hook, line, and sinker" (Google dictionary)
Jan-21-17
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  morfishine: <DrCirganaerepil1989: I don't get the pun> Thats because its not a pun, but another semi-clever rhyme play-on-word lacking, as usual, the relation-reference necessary to elevate this jumble of words to pun status.

*Notably lacking IN THE ACTUAL GAME, which is quite good with its maneuverings, is deception or trickery, thus the game-title fails, quite abysmally I might add.

Is <thegoodanarchist> on vacation?

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Jan-21-17
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  ChessHigherCat: <morfishine: <DrCirganaerepil1989: I don't get the pun> Thats because its not a pun, but another semi-clever rhyme play-on-word lacking, as usual, the relation-reference necessary to elevate this jumble of words to pun status.> 1) Can you kindly cite a reference that corresponds to your definition of a pun? Here's the Google dictionary's main definition, for example, which is infinitely less restrictive than yours: "Pun, noun: a joke exploiting the different possible meanings of a word or the fact that there are words that sound alike but have different meanings." Granted, that's just one definition and there are others, but I don't know of any that coincides with your understanding of the term. Better yet, why don't you provide an example of a truly noble pun worthy of this game? 2) The reference is between the distorted form "book line" and the game, not between the meaning of the the original phrase and the game. The whole point of distorting the phonetics is to give a well-known phrase a new meaning. As to whether the game actually follows the book line or not, I'm not expert enough to tell, but at least that's the correct basis for comparison; 3) "Elevate to the status of a pun" is a bit surprising since puns are generally accepted to be the lowest form of humor, although personally I agree they can be refined. Still, the general idea is just to play around and relieve tension in a highly tense atmosphere of strict linear logic, not to introduce a new inquisition.

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