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Simen Agdestein vs Veselin Topalov
Norway Chess (Blitz) (2014), Flor & Fjaere NOR, rd 2, Jun-02
King's Indian Defense: Six Pawns Attack (E77)  ·  1-0


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  Whitehat1963: Doesn't bode well for Topalov, even though he's never been a great blitz player. I'm starting to think Topalov's main virtue is stellar home prep.
Jun-02-14  posoo: Whitehat you are wrong. Toplove has NO virtues if he allows agdastone to WIN. This man has no chance of beating me even when I am huffing up the brown stairs!
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  Whitehat1963: Here we go, another master of overstatement. Yes, you're right, <posoo>. With this one win in a blitz game(!), Agdestein (correct spelling) has exposed Topalov as a mediocre chess player, a sham. He has no virtues whatsoever. Never mind that he has played in two matches for the world championship and won a FIDE world championship via tournament win in 2005. He's just another run-of-the-mill 2700-level player. By your logic, Kasparov had no virtues either:

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  Whitehat1963: I wonder what this blitz result says about our current world champion's abilities:

Carlsen vs Kosteniuk, 2009

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  WannaBe: A lot can change or happen in 5 years...
Jun-03-14  posoo: wrong again whitehat.

your link proves my point. everybody knows chess is a random game to a certain extent. for instance, if I played 1000 games against toplov, I am MATHEMATICALLY GARANTEED to win at least 5-10, even if I am an elementary player!

EVER HEARD of standard deves???


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  Whitehat1963: <posoo>, oh, yes, I've heard of standard deviations. And I'm telling you that if you played 10,000 games against Topalov (provided Topalov took the challenge seriously) or any 2700-level GM, he would destroy you 10,000 times.
Jun-03-14  john barleycorn: I guess the standard deviation is related to an expectation. the expectation is related to measurements and statistical data gathered in the past. Now, with <posoo> playing Topalov we are lacking empirical data. So we cannot speak meaningful of an expectation or a deviation, imo.
Jul-01-14  posoo: excellent point burlocon
Jul-01-14  Donkey Cult: I have a guess too! Since Topalov and posoo are still living and playing the population of games is unbounded and mean and std dev are undefined.
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