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|Oct-02-14|| ||Penguincw: This is the 7th game overall by these players (although 5 were blitz). This is also the first game won by white.|
|Oct-02-14|| ||Br0kedChess: Am I missing the ending?
24... Qxf6 25. Nd4!? picking up the bishop?
Or is there some tactical checkmate I'm missing?
Or is the move Nd6 instead of Nd4? I'm confused
|Oct-02-14|| ||chancho: 23...Qxf6 24.Rd6.|
|Oct-02-14|| ||john barleycorn: <chancho: 23...Qxf6 24.Rd6.> Isn't 24.Nd6 better?|
|Oct-02-14|| ||Domdaniel: Both 24.Rd6 and 24.Nd6 seem winning.|
|Oct-02-14|| ||Garech: The Russians have fixed world chess.
|Oct-02-14|| ||MissScarlett: Dmitry's first game in six months. He's just clearing away the cobwebs.|
|Oct-02-14|| ||Domdaniel: <Garech> -- < The Russians have fixed world chess. >|
Nah, the *Ukrainians* have fixed world chess. They're so good that some of 'em masquerade as Russians, Israelis, etc.
|Oct-02-14|| ||latvalatvian: Dmitry must have been asleep during this game. I know chess can make you sleepy but 23 moves?|
|Oct-02-14|| ||Whitehat1963: The ending makes for a clever puzzle one day.|
|Oct-02-14|| ||PawnSac: One really has to admire Gelfand's attacking play. He may not be at the top (world #16) but his play is often spectacular. Often a breath of fresh air from the Romantic Era. Wow. |
17. ..Rf8? (Bxd5 seemed necessary)
18.e5!! anchoring the knight on d5. black can't play Bxd5 now because of Qxd5
19.f5! this is a wow move because it's strength is based on the 21.Nf5 and 22.Qh6 sequence that follows.
Boris sure can produce some great and esthetically satisfying chess.
|Oct-02-14|| ||messachess: This is truly great by Gelfand. His last move simply wins a piece. Brilliant.|
|Oct-02-14|| ||messachess: It's still about stamina though. 45 isn't old but not the endurance of 25.|
|Oct-03-14|| ||capafischer1: Great attack. Those 2 pawns he sacrificed in the opening looked like home preparation. Nice middle game and finish too. Gelfand was born in Belarus by the way.|
|Oct-03-14|| ||Sokrates: A classic attacking gamed in the good old Alekhine style. Gelfand conducted this brilliant power-game in one breath, precisely out-manoeuvering the young opponent and proving what a world-class player he is. Well done, sir!|
|Oct-03-14|| ||kingscrusher: Great game to show a dangerous line vs the Queens Indian! |
I video annotated it here:
|Oct-03-14|| ||Domdaniel: After 9.e4! - a sharp line where White offers a second pawn - the relatively solid reply 9...d6 is normal, as here. Black took the pawn, 9...Nxe4, in Krasenkow vs M Socko, 2013, but it didn't work out well.|
|Oct-03-14|| ||Domdaniel: <messachess> -- < It's still about stamina though. 45 isn't old but not the endurance of 25.>|
This is true. But the experience gained between 25 and 45 should ideally outweigh any loss in stamina or calculating ability. Korchnoi, among others, demonstrated this.
On the other hand, my rating is now 150 points lower than it was in my 20s, even though I feel that I'm playing better.
|Oct-03-14|| ||Domdaniel: I knew this reminded me of something: another Queen's Indian with a White d5 and a Black ...g6, where Black's queenside never really got moving, and a couple of passive moves led to a drastic White sac and total destruction ... Korchnoi vs Karpov, 1974|
|Oct-04-14|| ||erimiro1: I'll be happy to get some explanation about the first pawn sac 6.d5 and black's 8.- Bc6, instead of the natural 8.-Bb7. It's clear that if black wants the pawn, he has to capture it with the bishop, but it's hard to see white's comapansation.|
|Oct-04-14|| ||Domdaniel: <erimiro1> The 'natural' 8...Bb7 has been played a couple of times, but seems inferior to ...Bc6. After ...Bb7 White has moves such as Nb5 and Qa4, as well as tricks on the long diagonal against the unprotected Bb7.
As for White's compensation, it seems obvious enough. I suggest playing through a couple of the games where White won after d5.
As far as I know, the Queen's Indian once had a drawish reputation, until Kasparov in the 1980s revitalized the White side with dynamic moves like d5.|
|Oct-04-14|| ||Rama: <<tricks on the long diagonal against the unprotected Bb7>>|
I got killed once that way, vowed never to play the QID again in a serious game if white fianchettos.
|Oct-05-14|| ||whiteshark: Daniel ♔ took a look at the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBt...|
|Oct-06-14|| ||Domdaniel: <whiteshark> - Thank you for that link: King's analysis may not be very deep, but is still good.|
|Oct-06-14|| ||IPrometheus: The whole games was probably analyzed by Gelfand to the final move. 24 Nd6 would have been the next move for White.|
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