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Teimour Radjabov vs Sergey Karjakin
FIDE Grand Prix Tashkent (2014), Tashkent UZB, rd 1, Oct-21
Vienna Game: Mieses Variation (C26)  ·  1/2-1/2


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Oct-21-14  Xeroxx: Vienna? Interesting.
Oct-21-14  AuN1: Fedoseev recently lost on the black side of a vienna in the world juinor championship which may have caused him first place.
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  JointheArmy: Hopefully this is a sign Radjabov is here to win the tournament and not just draw all his games.
Oct-21-14  fisayo123: <JointheArmy> Winning games against 2700+ opposition at demand is in itself a talent, something Teimour has struggled with his entire career.

I doubt Radjabov goes into these tournaments with the mindset of just drawing games galore.

Oct-21-14  Ulhumbrus: Instead of playing d4 as eg in the game Spassky vs Korchnoi, 1978 Radjabov keeps his d pawn back on d3 and concedes space to Karjakin. If the plan is to prepare f4 and advance the f pawn so as to start a king side attack, the attempted attack does not succeed.
Oct-22-14  1d410: <Join the Army> Why?
Oct-24-14  Everett: I like this system as white. It packs some poison
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  Sally Simpson: Ulhumbrus:

Position after 10.d3 Rb8

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I kind of like the 10.d3 move. It's not a bad looking Pirc set up for White. I'll just not worry about that piece of fodder on a2.

Not sure about the 11.Nh4 move. It's OK. Holds up f5.

Was thinking 10.h3 let him play Be6, give him the a2 pawn play Ra1-a4-h4. Then Nh2, Qh5, Ng4 Be4 and White is saccing on h6. (I'm off on a fantasy trip with that one.)

10.Nd2 - Ne4 ideas are there.

Even 10.Ng5 is on the table. 10...hxg5 11.Bxc6.

Nice flexible set-up for White. He has middle game ideas.

Pass the buck with 10.h3 see what he does. If he tickles the a2 pawn then let him have it. I'll get two tempi out of it. Why not give him the b1 Rook and c2 pawn. 4 tempi.

10.h3 Be6, 11.Nh2 Bxa2 12.Qh5 Bxb1 13.Ng4 Bxc2

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14.Be4 Ne7 15.Nf6+ gxf6 16.Qxh6 f5 17.Bg5 fxe4 18.Bf6 1-0.

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How come the lad never saw this?

Oct-25-14  Everett: As Bronstein has said on many occasion in these KID set-ups, the queenside B is already "developed" on the c1-h6 diagonal, and the a1R can scoot to the b-file or support a disruptive a-pawn push, granting more scope to the king's B.
Oct-25-14  Everett: Ulhumbrus: <Instead of playing d4 as eg in the game Spassky vs Korchnoi, 1978 Radjabov keeps his d pawn back on d3 and concedes space to Karjakin. If the plan is to prepare f4 and advance the f pawn so as to start a king side attack, the attempted attack does not succeed.>

Why are you lying? Spassky did play d3, and was compelled to play 14.d4 because Korchnoi invited it with 13..c4!?

Spassky did concede space, Korchnoi took it, and Spassky outplayed him from there. He didn't play the initial stage differently.

Oct-27-14  Ulhumbrus: <Sally Simpson> The advance d3 can be attractive in its own ways and it avoids making such concessions as the advance d4 will make. The concession which it does make is that of space to Black whereas the advance d4 as in the game Spassky vs Korchnoi, 1978 does not let Black keep such an advantage in space
Oct-30-14  Everett: <Ilhumbrus> Remarkable work avoiding the actual circumstances of the games under discussion.
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  perfidious: <Everett> It is unfortunate that <u> feels compelled to hide behind a wall of generalities and abstractions rather than discuss specific situations, which might prove edifying.

By the bye, early in my career at master level I played 3.g3 in the Vienna on occasion for a change of pace. Never had any desire to try 3.f4, nor did I feel it offered much to White.

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  whiteshark: <Your task is to find the winning move.>

17.Kf2 !!


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